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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#21 - 2014-12-08 15:51:49 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
SpaceSaint wrote:
Picked the game back up for a free 10 day retrial.
Loved the new content so i decided to give it a try.

My first problem arose when i tried to purchase a month and found that my bank would not allow international purchases... Any suggestions.


You have a Visa Credit Card?


Or PayPal.


im currently in the middle east and use paypal

Just Add Water
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-12-08 16:30:05 UTC
Skydell wrote:
You are going a little over the top on the bad luck streak.

You managed to hit just about every possible nightmare scenario EVE has to throw at you, some of them even the most horrible of gamers would need to go out of there way to find.

Seriously, you have been watching too much CNN. Chill on the sensational negativity a bit.


Nightmare Scenario #47: Accidentally point a lowsec gate.
Yes, the gate.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2014-12-08 16:46:20 UTC
be clever, be smart. dont die. profit

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-12-08 18:44:31 UTC
If you're looking for more 'one-to-one' help within the game, outside of Rookie Chat, you can join Help Chat - Reloaded, which can be found by searching in the channels menu! (✿◠‿◠)

EVE shines when you play with other people, so it's best to find a nice corporation you fit in with ASAP.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#25 - 2014-12-08 19:08:57 UTC
Don't prioritize isk making. Prioritize fun having.

Quit getting scammed too.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#26 - 2014-12-08 19:42:24 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
SpaceSaint wrote:
Picked the game back up for a free 10 day retrial.
Loved the new content so i decided to give it a try.

My first problem arose when i tried to purchase a month and found that my bank would not allow international purchases... Any suggestions.


You have a Visa Credit Card?


Or PayPal.



or amazon and buy a gtc

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#27 - 2014-12-09 01:08:32 UTC
SpaceSaint wrote:
Tear Jar wrote:
Eve isk/hr scales extremely well with your knowledge and understanding. By constantly jumping around every time something fails, you never gain the knowledge needed to actually excel at something. As a simple example, I am 95% certain you were high sec mining in a covetor or retriever. if you were in a semidecently fit procurer, you would not have been ganked. Now a committed miner would have looked up what he could do to avoid ganks after dying and figured this out. Instead you gave up and moved onto something else.

The same applies for scams. Someone who gets scammed can give up and switch to another activity, or they could look on the Eve Uni wiki for a comprehensive list of scams so they are prepared next time.

As for corp fleets, your corp should have some form of SRP to reimburse ships lost in PvP. Otherwise, you should probably go for a different corp.

Oh, and to answer your original question, you can earn 40m isk per hour in a T1 frigate doing faction warfare plexes. it also gives you the opportunity to learn a bit about PvP.



how do you earn 40mil an hour in a t1 frigate doing faction warfare.


You kill an npc then orbit a button for 10-20 minutes. People may try to kill you while you do this, but your frigate is only worth 1-2m isk so it doesn't really matter.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#28 - 2014-12-09 01:12:20 UTC
Tear Jar wrote:


You kill an npc then orbit a button for 10-20 minutes. People may try to kill you while you do this, but your frigate is only worth 1-2m isk so it doesn't really matter.



Building on this. You are paid in loyalty points, not liquid ISK.

These LP can then be swapped for datacores which you can then sell to people who do invention.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Kaye Kaye
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-12-09 07:03:35 UTC
SpaceSaint wrote:
Any suggestions.


Yes,

If you plan to keep playing, High Sec is very easy to make a plex for casual play plus extras.

get a t1 cruiser Vexor or Caracal and do SOE level 3 missions until you save up around 350m (maybe a week)
then buy a Gila and do level 4 missions for SOE or Thukker for very good income... super easy to earn it, really!
You could also do it with Level 4 Mining missions, not many gankers in those.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#30 - 2014-12-09 09:12:53 UTC
I'd like to point out that nothing the OP experience was limited to new players at all. Everyone is an equal target for ganks and scams. Only your knowledge and acting to take steps to prevent them from happening stops it.

The Drake is a Lie
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-12-09 10:19:48 UTC
You have not much to lose as a new player =P

Be happy you are learning these things now and not in 2 years when it could potentially really hurt.
Lady Areola Fappington
#32 - 2014-12-09 10:42:27 UTC
SpaceSaint wrote:
Picked the game back up for a free 10 day retrial.
Loved the new content so i decided to give it a try.

My first problem arose when i tried to purchase a month and found that my bank would not allow international purchases and so was forced to buy plex at 20 bucks.
Not CCP's fault.

So i chose to reinvest my choices into PI. It was a passive income that would allow me to have a steady stream of very low maintenance income. After learning the absurd tax rates in High sec and investing 20 million of my now dwindled ISK i was shocked at how hard it would be to make this work in high sec. So i started to search for a corp in low/null sec.

After moving 44 jumps down and getting a 100 million contribution i started off working for the corp selling my PI for Amarr Fuel Blocks for our POS. At this time i had no clue but spent many hours looking at youtube guides.

PI allowed for little fun for me so i wanted to get into some PVP. Well right off the bat i learned that i was going to be at a huge drawback not having a single one tech 2 or higher frigate, cruiser or bs. Not only that flying anything higher than a tech 1 cruiser was going to cost me 50million isk, which my income currently could not fullfill. Soooooo i had to get a steady stream of income into the game to finance my ultimate goal of PVP.
I started training mining up thinking this would work.
Got frustrated when i got scammed by the marginal trading. Then got suicided gank withing 5minutes of my new coverts 50million ship. I was beyond furious. I was in high sec mining ice and withing a few minutes was dead. All my investment into making an income gone. Frustrated i asked my corps to help and i got a new supply of ISK. T
Then i tried gas mining.
5 dead ventures later and out anohter 30 million and getting scammed on contracts.. I about just give up.
This game is extremely fun only to a point. New players have huge, overwelming disadvantages in this game. And it is very aggravating for me to pick up another month. Any suggestions.



I can't help with much, Eve is a pretty rough game starting out. It's kinda part of the charm in a way, you get a sense of accomplishment when you finally pull things together.


What I CAN help with is that billing hiccup. My bank has the same policy, no transactions to the UK, even if you call and say it's OK. I got around that by buying game-time from Amazon. Not PLEX, but actual game time....it's been a minute since I did it last, but there's a way to link your Eve and Amazon accounts. Fixes that little international transaction problem.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2014-12-09 11:13:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
I first tried EVE in 2006 as high-sec carebear, I got wardecced and chased by wardecs until I ended up living in providence where I burnt out from mostly not being able to fit into that community.

In 2013 I tried again on this main character, went to EVE Uni to relearn all the basic game mechanics until I got :commissared: for good forum posting. Then I ran around with low-sec pirates while doing high-sec incursions for about a year, burnt out again... Then in 2014 I joined the CFC and climbed through its ranks and got the chance do everything from being a f1 pusher in small and large-scale fights, fleet-commanding and even planning strategic objectives.

On the side I have been massacring high-sec miners... because I've been a high-sec carebear before, it only ends in tears. It is better for players to learn this sooner than later.

Instead of jumping at the first "new player friendly" corporation you find, find somewhere that can actually help you achieve what you want. This is easier said than done though. Join a community, they say. Most communities with any real stake and power are closed societies that have to actively defend against spies. And joining powerful communities that are open societies is an interesting experience because of the spy infestation.

In other words, life is hard if you weren't already born into a good community. But I've been there, it is possible to make something of yourself, with a lot of work. Once you've got the game mechanics nailed down, it's mostly about navigating the player politics. EVE is about people more than it is about just spreadsheets. And it is the people that will keep you subscribed and logging in to stare at the spreadsheets.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
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