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SJ Astralana
Syncore
#1 - 2014-12-08 07:50:05 UTC
If a maxed margin trading skill is supposed to reduce your escrow down to 25%, why does my market window say 2.3bil in escrow, additional 18.57bil to cover? Also, the math of the escrow values returned in the market API don't compute at all. They start out okay when nothing has sold, but then it goes out of whack. I have 175 of 1300 Robotics remaining, and 8.6mil of remaining item cost is covered by 6.8mil of escrow, so it seems like as orders deplete escrow as reported gets skewed far too high. I've consistently seen this across many items where the prices are reasonably stable. Ideas?

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2014-12-08 09:33:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Margin Trading: Escrow Multiplier = (1 - 25%) ^ Margin Trading Skill Level

Each order maintains its own escrow balance; purchases are made from this balance. Initially, the escrow balance is filled based on your Margin Trading skill. ISK is removed from the escrow balance until there is not enough ISK to cover a purchase, then the escrow balance is refilled.

So the escrow balance per order varies over the lifetime of a buy order, up to the max limited by skill.

If the escrow balance cannot be filled to cover a purchase, the order gets cancelled.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#3 - 2014-12-08 19:05:09 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Margin Trading: Escrow Multiplier = (1 - 25%) ^ Margin Trading Skill Level

Each order maintains its own escrow balance; purchases are made from this balance. Initially, the escrow balance is filled based on your Margin Trading skill. ISK is removed from the escrow balance until there is not enough ISK to cover a purchase, then the escrow balance is refilled.

So the escrow balance per order varies over the lifetime of a buy order, up to the max limited by skill.


That's fine, but escrow doesn't seem to deplete at a constant rate. If I post a buy order quantity two, why wouldn't my escrow be half of its original value after buying the first item?

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-12-08 20:56:56 UTC
No. If you have Margin Trading trained, then purchases first deplete the escrow, then are taken from your wallet after the escrow has been depleted.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#5 - 2014-12-08 22:28:52 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
No. If you have Margin Trading trained, then purchases first deplete the escrow, then are taken from your wallet after the escrow has been depleted.


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Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#6 - 2014-12-08 23:31:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
SJ Astralana wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
No. If you have Margin Trading trained, then purchases first deplete the escrow, then are taken from your wallet after the escrow has been depleted.


Sokath, his eyes uncovered!


Actually, as I stated above, escrow is refilled (from your wallet), and escrow continues to be used for purchases.

It works this way because you can change the price of an order.

Excess ISK in escrow is refunded after an order completes, if you reduced your price.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#7 - 2014-12-09 01:23:24 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
SJ Astralana wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
No. If you have Margin Trading trained, then purchases first deplete the escrow, then are taken from your wallet after the escrow has been depleted.


Sokath, his eyes uncovered!


Actually, as I stated above, escrow is refilled (from your wallet), and escrow continues to be used for purchases.

It works this way because you can change the price of an order.

Excess ISK in escrow is refunded after an order completes, if you reduced your price.


It's gelling now. I've been trying to track down capital value fluctuations when orders get converted to materials, and now can see that the escrow balance isn't the issue.

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