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Orcablasta
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-12-08 20:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Orcablasta
Can we get a Gas Harvesting dedicated ship, seems CCP want dedicated ships, but people still using Cane or other COMBAT ships as Gas harvesters, something on the lines of the Noctis maybe

4 - Highs maybe 6
2 gas harvesters maybe 4
1 probe Scanner
1 cloak

4 - Mids - shield tank

4 - Lows

3 rigs or 2

bonus for Gas mods
reduced for covert cloak
bonus to scanning

Gas Hold 10,000 - 15,000
200 cargo

Just saying feel free to flame or support Shocked
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#2 - 2014-12-08 20:23:47 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
If only there was some ship that was optimized for this already. I'd Venture a guess that one could find one or two ships that meet this description, if they would just Prospect for it.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Orcablasta
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-12-08 20:29:38 UTC
The Prospect is very inefficient (1 lazer)

a barge size ship is what I'm getting at. but that's ok you continue on your negativity (glass is half empty)

So many ships have alternatives (Class size) would e nice to have something in Gas SPECIFIC not just a generic ship
Thenoran
Tranquility Industries
#4 - 2014-12-08 20:37:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Thenoran
The Prospect IS the Gas Mining ship.
With bonuses it mines mores with two harvesters than any cruiser/BC does with five.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2014-12-08 20:42:15 UTC
Orcablasta wrote:
The Prospect is very inefficient (1 lazer)

a barge size ship is what I'm getting at. but that's ok you continue on your negativity (glass is half empty)

So many ships have alternatives (Class size) would e nice to have something in Gas SPECIFIC not just a generic ship

1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time.

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Orcablasta
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-12-08 20:56:18 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Orcablasta wrote:
The Prospect is very inefficient (1 lazer)

a barge size ship is what I'm getting at. but that's ok you continue on your negativity (glass is half empty)

So many ships have alternatives (Class size) would e nice to have something in Gas SPECIFIC not just a generic ship

1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time.



Slow on the up take ?

Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret

so yeah 1 lazer

I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester

So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2014-12-08 21:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Orcablasta wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time.



Slow on the up take ?

Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret

so yeah 1 lazer

I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester

So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.

Mobile Depot and refit? Use a dedicated prober instead of your gas harvesting ship? Roll

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-12-08 21:39:26 UTC
Well one drawback of a gas barge would be its low chance of survivoh I just noticed your name.
Orcablasta
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2014-12-08 21:42:41 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Orcablasta wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time.



Slow on the up take ?

Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret

so yeah 1 lazer

I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester

So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.

Mobile Depot and refit? Use a dedicated prober instead of your gas harvesting ship? Roll



wow what a great idea use an alt, wish I thought of that.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#10 - 2014-12-08 21:54:18 UTC
Orcablasta wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Orcablasta wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time.



Slow on the up take ?

Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret

so yeah 1 lazer

I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester

So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.

Mobile Depot and refit? Use a dedicated prober instead of your gas harvesting ship? Roll



wow what a great idea use an alt, wish I thought of that.


It doesn't have to be an alt or second account. My pilots can scan and gas mine - whether they scan and refit with a mobile depot or have two separate ships is really up to you.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#11 - 2014-12-08 22:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Orcablasta wrote:
Slow on the up take ?

Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret

so yeah 1 lazer

I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester

So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.

As others have said, bring a mobile depot and refit.

1. Scan down gas sites and bookmark them.
2. Drop mobile depot.
3. Refit.
4. Scoop depot to avoid being scanned.
5. Go mine with 2 harvesters.
6. Profit.

EDIT: Or, scan them down with a dedicated scanning ship, bookmark them, and come back in your two-harvester Prospect. Either way works.

Given the speed with which a Prospect can clean out most gas sites, I don't really see the need for a bigger gas mining platform. Now, if there were larger sites available that the Prospect couldn't handle on it's own in a short time, I'd say that'd qualify as a need.

Having said that, I have always found it somewhat irksome that the Prospect only has 3 high slots.

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Aran Hotchkiss
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-12-08 22:24:09 UTC
I might a nice amount of isk on the side scanning down emerald nebula in my Buzzard from time to time and then running them in my prospect.

For a while the venture was the go-to gas harvesting ship, able to mine a huge amount of gas compared to its size and cost, and the more recent prospect is a nice surprise.

Gas harvesting differs from standard mining currently in the sense that bigger ships =/= better, along with the fact that rather than a constant supply of asteroids that you mine over time, instead there are random occurrences of small quantities of gas with a relatively high value, which would clash with having a slow, covetor-style gas harvesting barge.

You should have enough control over your herd of cats to make them understand. If they constantly make misstakes, get better cats.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#13 - 2014-12-08 22:29:37 UTC
the prospect has almost everything you wanted. You just need to fit mobile depot to refit. A bigger ship would just make it harder to do.
Sigras
Conglomo
#14 - 2014-12-09 00:19:52 UTC
Orcablasta wrote:
Slow on the up take ?

Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret

so yeah 1 lazer

I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester

So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.

It's almost as though they wanted you to have to make trade-offs when fitting your ship...
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#15 - 2014-12-09 02:30:00 UTC
to let you know , the gas harvesting skillbook allow to use 5 gas harvesters on level 5 so people were using ships sush a gnosis for this type of task how about tech 3 barge that can fit has harvesters? it could have three modes ore mining , ice mining, gas harvesting each mode apply role bonus and allow fit proper equipment


yes we do need gas harvesting upgrade as gas mining isnt affected by orca/rorqual boost sadly.

my idea for dedicated gas harvesting ship

6 high slots 5 turret slots
3 med slots
3 low slots
2 rig slots

cargo capacity 400
gas storage facility 15000

ship could have big sig size, but be able to covops,scan signatures ,no combat capablity

oh we should have also ice harvesting drones and gas mining drones tooo
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#16 - 2014-12-09 13:46:31 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
to let you know , the gas harvesting skillbook allow to use 5 gas harvesters on level 5 so people were using ships sush a gnosis for this type of task how about tech 3 barge that can fit has harvesters? it could have three modes ore mining , ice mining, gas harvesting each mode apply role bonus and allow fit proper equipment


yes we do need gas harvesting upgrade as gas mining isnt affected by orca/rorqual boost sadly.

my idea for dedicated gas harvesting ship

6 high slots 5 turret slots
3 med slots
3 low slots
2 rig slots

cargo capacity 400
gas storage facility 15000

ship could have big sig size, but be able to covops,scan signatures ,no combat capablity

oh we should have also ice harvesting drones and gas mining drones tooo



The role bonus of the ship (venture and prospect) make using 2 gas mining lasers better than any other ship with 5 lasers.

And the only link that matters (duration) does affect gas mining.
DaeHan Minhyok
Logical Outcomes
#17 - 2014-12-09 14:02:52 UTC
While a cruiser sized gas harvesting ship might be interesting the gas market seems to be doing just fine without it. And as mentioned, there are a couple comparable frigate options.