EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hey vets and people with more knowledge than me :D Back then I started playing this game, but I stopped and all I can say is I returned because I was craving to play it now when I got time to do it :) I'm really newbie and all I know are somewhat the basics. Mostly doing mining and I trained up to Charon which I bought not too long ago. So my question is, do I have to keep training further to Jump freighters and what I have to use my Charon for? I got no corporation, but I want to go for the PVP and I pretty much know I will die if I accept random contracts from stranger spamming in jita. Any tips?

Appreciated lads, cheers!

You already understand the most important thing, but take it a step further and just minimize local in trade hubs. It'll keep you focused.

As for courier contracts. Use your search function to find them. It's not hard to see the scams, so they are pretty easy to avoid and are not the problem with hauling. Being ganked is.

Have a look through the forum for methods to minimize risk of being exploded. In general though, even that is not as much of a problem as people make it out to be. Just stick to a few basic rules and you'll do fine.

You can make ISK running courier contracts. Not much for the effort, though, and it's one of those things that is boring as hell. You need to be paying attention at all times so it's tough to run another character that you are actually having engaging gameplay with at the same time, as you would with a semi-AFK miner for instance.

And if you do end up losing your ship, it's going to hurt. A lot.

There are much better ways to make some ISKies to feed your PVP habit, in my opinion.

Mr Epeen

Most people I know that haul aren't doing it for the hauling isk. They're moving their own stuff from a to b, usually manufactured products to trade hub to sell, or supplies from trade hub to their home. Some pick up public contracts for some side isk as they're 'on the way' but it's not their main income souce. I highly recommend you start skilling up for some pvp skills and re-evaluate if freighter running is going to be making enough isk for you on its own. That is not to say it's not handy being able to fly a freighter, just for isk/effort you're not making a whole lot to fund a healthy pvp habit imo.

The other advantage of PVP skills is that it will allow you to make some isk from ratting/missions, all the gunnery (or missile) skills, ewar (target painters, webs) and naviational skills (AB/MWD) are useful in both pve and pvp.

Also, for those saying you can't really solo pvp as a newbie, that's bull. Yes, you are at a disadvantage vs someone rocking implants, fleet boosts and buckets of skills, but in many palce, especially FW lowsec, there are plenty of players with lots of sp but no idea how to fly their ship. Get good at maximising your own abilities, and you can (and will) kill higher SP players if you know what targets to fight and hunt. It's not easy, you will lose a crap tonne, but if solo is something you wanna try nothing beats getting out there and trying it.

Another big big advice I have is if you're looking to pvp, join a pvp corp that looks for newbros. You can go roaming with friends, or solo, but being in a corp with a mix of newbies and veterans will give you a massive derth of experiance to fidn your own way through the game.

There is too much competition among courier contractors, meaning there's basically no money to be made in doing them.

It pays worse than *mining*, and you are putting a lot of capital at risk to make other people rich.

I recently spotted a trade opportunity and bought 3 billion ISK worth of goods in Amarr and 70 million in a system adjacent to Amarr, and shipped them down to Dodixie to resell for 3.7 billion. 70 million of the goods were lost to a gank, entirely at the cost of the hauler (who had to pay me a 75 or 80 million ISK failure penalty for the contract). The other 3b arrived safely. I will make 700m on the deal - the haulers got less than 2% of this and took all of the item destruction risk (I still took some risk, with market conditions).

If you like to fly a freighter, fly a freighter. Public contracts can make you some isk, but not large amounts.

If you want to pvp, sell the freighter. That will allow you to buy like... 300 or so fittet frigs.

Go forth and die!

A

If you dont know what you need a Charon for - then you dont need a Charon.

Jump Freighters take way more skills than freighters .. not sure how many more .. but i would think with all the jump skills to V you would be looking at 3+ months. but i am just guessing.

Sell the charon .. you can always buy another when you actually need one.

If you want to learn pvp then take the isk from the charon .. buy lots of cheap frigs and head to low sec .. or better yet join a pvp corp that takes in newer players .. maybe not to train you - but one that doesnt mind new players in the corp asking questions and doing their best .. buy and fit many cheap frigs then give'r.