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NEW SHIPS!!!!!

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Mr Welsh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-12-08 16:45:03 UTC

Suggestion



How many times have you searched for Carrier fighter/bombers? open the ship and look around it, and think they look much better than most frigs?

Can CCP Please make these available as ships? there just skins and shells all you would have to do is re size them? maybe into cruisers Battlecruser, Battleships even?

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/newsImages/492011/EVE-Crucible_t.jpg


Also another nice little tip, How cool would it be to have a frig version of a battleship? A Mini thron? or a Battleship sized Merlin, simple weird things with a twist, and obviously the bonuses would be scaled down to its correct ship size,

New ideas are right before your very eyes


If you have the time to add useless faction noob ships im sure this would benefit better for old school players :)
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-12-08 16:47:59 UTC

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ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#3 - 2014-12-08 16:49:30 UTC
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ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#4 - 2014-12-08 16:56:13 UTC
The Cyclops fighter bomber is 12,000 kg in mass. An Atron frigate, known for being very small and nimble, is 1,050,000 kg. That is almost 100x as massive as the fighter bomber. Ships operate on a completely different scale from fighters/fighter bombers. Since they cannot be ships themselves, they'd have to be resized (as you said). However, that would set a new precedent for low-effort asset creation. Need a new hull? Why create a new one? Just resize an already used one!

Additionally, introducing a ship is not as simple as having the raw model for it. Graphically, there are concerns about how the ship moves, where its hardpoints are, its animations, its engines, etc. Behind the scenes, there's also the concern of what the ship is actually supposed to do, and how it can be balanced to fill that role while contributing positively to Eve.

So: care to elaborate on what these new super-sized fighter bombers would do?

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#5 - 2014-12-08 17:13:55 UTC
Valkyrie is your game OP.
Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#6 - 2014-12-08 17:43:13 UTC
I like this. Ive often looked at the Cyclops and have thought of what Id do to pilot one. Possibly even buy it from the NES. What you think about that CCP? That's how you can get some money out of me.
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-12-08 18:05:47 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
The Cyclops fighter bomber is 12,000 kg in mass. An Atron frigate, known for being very small and nimble, is 1,050,000 kg. That is almost 100x as massive as the fighter bomber. Ships operate on a completely different scale from fighters/fighter bombers. Since they cannot be ships themselves, they'd have to be resized (as you said). However, that would set a new precedent for low-effort asset creation. Need a new hull? Why create a new one? Just resize an already used one!


Uhh... it might just be me, but wasn't this CCP's mantra for like... Ohhhh.. 10 years??

T2 ships ringing a bell?

It wasn't until weapons animations and teiricide that CCP started converting all those previously "copy, paste, repaint" skins started to change into their own models.

Take the fighter bomber models, adjust their models to best suit hardpoints, adjust size, give them a role (possibly related to the new shattered WH's), and slap in SiSi for testing...

If they don't work out in SiSi, then oh well... Many of game items have been thrown in the garbage after extensive design and testing, not to mention all the games themselves that had this same fate, some of where done by CCP...
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2014-12-08 18:29:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tappits
Mr Welsh wrote:

Suggestion



How many times have you searched for Carrier fighter/bombers? open the ship and look around it, and think they look much better than most frigs?

Can CCP Please make these available as ships? there just skins and shells all you would have to do is re size them? maybe into cruisers Battlecruser, Battleships even?

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/newsImages/492011/EVE-Crucible_t.jpg


Also another nice little tip, How cool would it be to have a frig version of a battleship? A Mini thron? or a Battleship sized Merlin, simple weird things with a twist, and obviously the bonuses would be scaled down to its correct ship size,

New ideas are right before your very eyes


If you have the time to add useless faction noob ships im sure this would benefit better for old school players :)



It would be cool. No slots Other than a mid that can only fit a mwd/AB just the mwd they all ready have. and have a button to activate the guns.
And can only be used in lowsec nullsec (like now)
and the skills to fly them is the fighter skills/Drone skills we all ready have.
No other skills apply to them other than drone skills.

Remove the ability to assign them, But you can ether put them in a carrier/super to use or board from station/or maybe you can get in the ones a carrier has out.
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#9 - 2014-12-08 19:22:11 UTC
If i could fly something that looked like the gallantean bomber i would never fly another frigate again...

#NOJOKE #4realsies
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-12-08 19:34:55 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
The Cyclops fighter bomber is 12,000 kg in mass. An Atron frigate, known for being very small and nimble, is 1,050,000 kg. That is almost 100x as massive as the fighter bomber.

And yet, they have BC-sized tanks and comparable DPS... P
Mr Welsh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-12-08 19:44:47 UTC
lol you asked my questions to do your job for you :P , thanks for moving my post :), it was a rough idea, because it would be awsome, imagine a frigit size megathron, obviously then they would fall into Gallente fighter bomber would adjust its high slot mid and low to its size and faction, were flying diff race is like a rock paper scissor fight where one counters the other then you would have one that counters each one haha!

and yes i know the atron looks abit like the cyclops but then again it does not look 100% like it, and it does look awsome

http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/8e/f3/15/20/dd/gallente_fighters_preview_featured.jpg

Tech 3 frigit

It also would be awsome if there was a high sec Carrier type ship, where it has Reps bonus and drone bonus's , mini carriers, because we have normal carriers, and super carriers, a Mini carrier would be nice :)

But yeah The fighter bombers skins/models are really cool

look at my awsome paint work http://gyazo.com/e63fadb27e09207ce101ab7ef428a47d

megathron size of frigs and fighter bomber size of a battleship :P

Mr Welsh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-12-08 19:57:48 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
The Cyclops fighter bomber is 12,000 kg in mass. An Atron frigate, known for being very small and nimble, is 1,050,000 kg. That is almost 100x as massive as the fighter bomber.

And yet, they have BC-sized tanks and comparable DPS... P



Ouch, the real is real :P
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-12-08 22:51:25 UTC
I want a type of carrier, in which the fighters it deploys are flown by players. Oh wait....thats what Valkyrie will be for. Too bad Valkyrie has to be an entirely separate game and not be integrated into the actual EVE server. Oh well.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-12-09 03:02:43 UTC
FireFrenzy wrote:
If i could fly something that looked like the gallantean bomber i would never fly another frigate again...

#NOJOKE #4realsies



http://i.imgur.com/jEICv.jpg

hmmmm

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#15 - 2014-12-09 12:34:29 UTC
Now i don't often fly frigates but that might replace the stiletto as my interceptor of choice...