EVE General Discussion

looking at the screenshot of the OP, it looks like the main issue is the combination of the cloud with the nebula skybox. Clouds can be extremely bright all by itself (hint: check out "the blockade" lvl 4 mission). A bright cloud on top of a bright nebula + HDR = white screen.

Thank you for taking a look at this. I didn't expect a response so quickly and it is greatly appreciated. From the responses here it looks like the brightness I see isn't an issue for most, so I'll check my own settings again. I did forget to mention that I run f.lux to adjust brightness/temperature based upon time of day (6500K daytime / 3400K night).

If there were a cloud in the way, it could certainly make it look like that. I couldn't tell just by looking at the screenshot whether it were a color LUT issue or a cloud but given the OP's comments about color settings, it might be both.

Could it be possible that someone on this subject can tell me where I can find the settings and how to turn them down? I been in systems that's just like daylight and to me that doesn't go well as far as real space looks.

I do realize that has to be some background lighting but geeesh, some of the systems and even when Im ratting it gets hard to see anything when it gets washed out because of too bright a background.

Am I the only one here that is wondering how the level of brightness set on your monitor would have any impact at all on a screenshot?

Monitor settings wouldn't do it, of course. I was thinking that if he had color management software installed, adjustments there might wind up in a screenshot, but on reflection I don't really think that's the case. (Normally, the monitor profile is applied at display time only and doesn't affect what's in the image buffer.) It looks like the reason that the OP's screenshot doesn't match the nebula in-game is because of a gas cloud object on grid with him.

When nebula brightness came up earlier, it was largely in the context of adverse interaction with the UI. We were hoping that most of the concerns might be addressed by Rhea's UI changes, which include dynamic adjustment to background brightness.

However, even with that, this is definitely a quality-of-life issue with reference display settings. I've spoken about it informally with our graphics QA team again today, so stay tuned. Hopefully soon we can achieve some improvement in this area.

That's not a typical scene if:
1. You fly gate to gate or gate to station.
2. You PVP around moons.

It is a typical scene if you mission in Amarr space, where quite a few of the missions involve some type of clouds that do seem to amplify the light source and make it very difficult to see enemy ships or read the overview. I'm constantly moving my view to the darkest part of the sky just trying to determine if my modules are active.

Forget the overview, which is certainly a problem. Consider other effects such as the slight green glow around an active module. It's near impossible at times to view this glow.

This whole problem could be easily solved if someone in the art department would start running missions in Amarr space and see for themselves. I cannot comment on other areas of New Eden.

Can't CCP darken the backgrounds and then fudge them a bit in the process of generating the reflections on ships? I obviously don't know how it works but you know... background +brightness modifier = reflection. So you can have darker backgrounds and unaltered ship reflections.

I thought the backgrounds were too bright to begin with, and had a fit of maniacal laughter for a few minutes when I saw those patch notes saying some backgrounds were brightened.

It has made it harder to see cycle times and things on modules. I assume its bad for overview and such as well, for people who use transparency. I always keep it opaque because the backgrounds bothered me to begin with.

There is also the matter of the extreme contrast in tone on many of the backgrounds. One of the Caldari skyboxes is basically black on one half and white on the other, or might as well be. Seems like CCP set themselves up for an impossible task of differentiating between foreground and background, UI and worldspace, etc... with backgrounds like these. The ships and UI should grab our attention, not the skybox.

And then there are the clouds... always have been a problem and continue to be one. It wasn't too big of a deal when we could keep them turned off.. but now we are forced to turn them on if we want to do the newest data/relic sites. Not only do they blow out your screen but they are still a performance hog.

The world does not look like that to the rest of us, as is obvious. You have one or several settings changed to make your game brighter. Really, it looks like you didn't care to turn down your brightness, and decided that you should instead bother people by asking for them to change the brightness of the objects in the game you want to play.

Look through the settings of your graphics card, desktop, monitor, and game. I can guarantee that one of them is turned up stupid high, because that's exactly how it looks. If your brightness were not turned up in some form, we wouldn't see that picture, we'd see a normal picture.

I agree, the tac overlay is ridiculously bright at times.