EVE New Citizens Q&A

No one seems to have said it yet ... when you are aiming for a T2 logistics ship - also go all the way skillwise.
Some fits you will see and will be required to use, require Logistics V.
While T1 doesn't and all T2 fits equally doesn't, it is still a very good skill to have maxed if you are seriuos about flying logisttics.

I wish to welcome you to the group of "Forever Heroes" on behalf of the other me that always does logistics in pvp.

I have to dissagree here. At least in my experience the Logifrigs can be extremly powerfull tools, especialy in combination with T2-Frigs. Yes, they are hard to fit, but not so hard that it's impossible for a new player. I never had an Issue to get AB/MWD and at least some sort of Tank on a Logifrig. They are Fragile, but they don't die as often as one might expect (I used to drop one piece random Stuff in my Navitas when it came back from a roam. Feel free to count, minus the Nanite-Paste and Fitting-stuff [loot]) And they are cheap. Ridiculously cheap. Were talking about 1 or 2 million ISK per Ship (including Fit) if you realy need to watch your Wallet. Certainly, its pointless to fly a Logifrig in a AHAC-Gang. But in a Assaultfrig-Gang in FW, they are Priceless :D

I will also point out that the scale of the bonuses on t1 logi cruisers, combined with the existance of deadspace medium remote reps means that if you have the isk, you can actually push more performance for rep/s over that of a t2 logi, and thus, in some cases, a well fit (and shiny, unfortunately for anyone who doesn't have someone bankrolling them or a far wad already) t1 logi cruiser can out perform a t2 logistics ship in raw rep/s/. Where they will lose hard is in ability to deal with the unexpected, and the fact they will likely cost as much or more as the t2 cruiser because of the shiny.

Being a logi pilot is lots of fun, requires you to be a decent pilot under pressure and *always* wanted. We regularly don't get enough logi for our NPSI fleets. People want killmails instead.

T1 is not only decent but very forgiving of skills. t2 logi needs solid skills to be worth it, or really to work as intended at all. But outside incursions i have never been in fleets that didn't accept a t1 logi even in the middle of t2s. So your always going to pretty welcome.

However it is hard to do in terms of practical skills. When you have entire wings broadcasting for reps, your getting nuted and you don't have much cap, the logi anchor is away to lunch, you got to just make decisions on your own and work out what the more important tasks. Keeping cap chains up etc. It keeps you busy. But it is also why it is so rewarding. No logi pilot ever got accused of being a f1 monkey!

But it is also a bit thankless. Sometimes, the rest of the fleet is looking at a few billion in kills, your looking at a list of lost logi, typically in fights where you could never win anyway. Bu real logi pilots don't need killmails :D

I would recommend cross training across all races at least at the t1 level. All the logi ships fill different rolls. T2 however is enough of a train that you will probably know what you want at that point anyway. (Hint: the Guardian is a *very* good ship, the Scimi works pretty well as a solo logi for small gang work)

Hm, it seems be some opposing points about the Frigates, from what I understand they are definitely useful but complicated, but my main problem would be the number of fights that I can find with those ships, I mean, from what I get it, the Cruisers have a more general purpose compared to the frigates, so would be correct to say that its easier to find a fleet in a Cruiser than in a frigate? Because what I need is practice.

YES, I do need to get a Corp, thank you Winter Archipelago on the tips about the public roam groups!



I'm still not sure what corp I should enter, but I'm kind afraid to enter "massive-scale fights" not knowing anything, I should probably go for "small-scale fights" first.



I do pretend to go all the way, so yes to Logistics V on the future. I'm dead serious about flying logistics!



Thank you, I'm honored! Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the "Forever Heroes"?



Oh, I didn't know that offensive drones could be a viable choice, I was thinking just about repair drones. Will keep that in mind.
Thank you.



Oh god, all that? And why the logi anchor is lunching at a time like that?!

Along with everything else in this thread you also have actual piloting methods to think about and plan for.

Solo logi/small fleet - You also want all your navigation skills topped off. (oneiros/exequror/scimitar/scythe) A lot of times you will find you won't be flying directly with the fleet at all. You will be using a bit of situational awareness with surrounding celestials and dropping bookmarks midwarp, bouncing back and forth between your fleet and shorter bookmarks. You need to be quick.

The goal is to keep yourself as far away from the enemy fleet while at the same time keeping your friendly fleet at your maximum targeting/rep range. You may find that simply not being on grid at all is your best defense, only warping in when needed for reps on key ships while keeping yourself alive.

Letting some die so that others may live is often a hard choice short term but this may end up being the case so that the fleet can win the battle. Sadly sometimes people may lose expensive fits in the process. You will be making these choices.

All in all logistics is fantastically fun in eve and since youre used to the role from other games you always know exactly how, what, when and why the fight turned out the way it did.

Also, once you are good at logistics you can forget about flying any other role .

It helps to have several characters, each specializing in one job.

Since there is no T2 logi frigate, by default the T1 is very useful. Cruisers won't keep up with frigates, so they're not much of an option if your fleet is small hulls.

We never turn down T1 Cruiser logi if it's all you can fly....but T2 hulls come with much higher resists built in, and increase survivability greatly. Enemies will primary logi, so they need to mitigate as much damage as possible to remain on field. A T1 hull is just more likely to get alpha'd into powder. Logi is so vital to fleets now that they are becoming some of the most pimped out ships in a doctrine- anything to keep them alive and the reps flowing.

Logi also suffers from being rather reliant on a bunch of V's in the skill department. It's massively cap intensive so anything less than max in appropriate skills is really gimping your ability to rep for long. But if you have a bunch of V's already......why wouldn't you just fly the T2 version? So it tends to be that by the time you are an effective logi pilot, you are already able to fly the T2 version. The T1's don't make much of a 'stepping stone' in that regard.

Yep, cloaked, and not in fleet, so spais can't warp on top of you to decloak you.