Crime & Punishment

NOTE; i am not against PVP in any form and I am no carebare

Gankers vs miners characters gameplay,

I have been roaming around in high sec, and I have seen after i returned back to EVE miner ganking at it's finest, which I am not against . What I do hate and have seen, is almost each solar system in high sec has his miner ganker(group) or in rare cases MB-ers now which in most cases is an alt of player or a group of players who have on there main between +2.0 and 5.0 sec status but log in on a alt who has -10 sec just to gank and salvage and loot the wreck with a +0.1 sec status alt, and all those alts are in most cases in NPC corps.
People in EVE say we gank miners because they think they are safe so we make them have to be alert at all times which I agree, and they have to spam there d-scan each second and they have to run when a catalyst enters the system every time.
Why don't gankers have to be alert all the time because they have -10 sec status and after a gank they just log back into there + 0 sec status alt do PVE or station trade whatever, without ever have the feeling of continuously needing to be alert in the game.
I don't ask CCP to do something against it, i just ask the players if you want to be a bad guy with -10 sec status and gank do it with your main and not hide behind a high sec status character miners play fair they don't hide you know where to find them, miners cant find you guy's because you log out after a gank and play PVE with a high sec character.

For real miners not for those cheesy ones it takes a year to skill train and optimize a miner tank and +200 million but yet some even full optimized get ganked within a couple of seconds by dessy -10 alts at the cost of 21million isk and low skill training the profit in that gank is aprox 100 million. Why do those gankers hide in a high sec stat character if you can live as pirate and also be rich. Is it mayby because they don't like to be continuously have to be alert and watch local and use D-scan and having the possibility of being ganked at any times i don't know. I am against it, I just wish those players would not log out and play PVE in high sec or whatever but be alert at all times since you have chosen to be bad guy, after ganks, just stay logged in and have the same risk as miners do to be ganked.

I love playing EVE but since i returned i like it less because what i see and have witnessed on my roam and scouting stations and seeing ganks happen and where those people dock and see them log out and then suddenly see the same amount of people logging in on a plus sec status character.
Or see a guy scout a Astroid belt with a Dramiel +5.0 sec status. HG sees a Mackinaw lame tanked 10.3k max all for yield. The scout docks, there was only 1 station in the system and suddenly in the station 2 -10 sec status and 1 +0.2 sec stat characters log in and all leave the station warp to the miner and bang 1 loot and salvage the miner his left overs and two -10 ganked by CONCORDE they pod to station and log out. To bad this is what isk makes people do all about the greed.

I don't mind mine rganks or transport ganks or mission ganks, it's a part of EVE. I only hate they do it with alts and hide when it's over in the system station that easy without ever have to worry for payback by players who don't hide because there main is high sec status.

This is an opinion about the game play, a yell out to people to do PVP like it supposed to be instead for hiding behind a high sec status in the game and this is about 0.5 sec and higher. And sorry for my bad grammar


PS, ISD or GM i dont know where this should be posted so i posted it in gameplay since it is about gameplay and my 1st post ever and it's not posted or written to upset people or accuse people this is just what I have witnessed and why I feel sad in EVE.


Edited for readability. ISD Ezwal.

There is no excuse for this crap.

If this isn't a troll ( and I'm reaaaally stretching here ) you need to learn how to write a post so interested parties can read it and respond. Not slop together some misspelled, grammatically incorrect rant in wall-text format.

This isn't wow or cod. People here are more demanding in terms of intelligence.

The damn forum automatically corrects spelling errors for bob's sake.

Hence, 2.5 / 10

What did I just read? Oh...I read a rambling man.

Using a "stream of consciousness" style of writing doesn't work very well unless you practice it, e.g. Henry Miller or James Joyce.

If you want to get your point of view over to other people that may or may not agree with you writing it out and reviewing it, and doing this several times while thinking about the key points you are trying to make could help. You could also ask someone to review what you have written and ask them if it is clear, concise, etc.

Do tell, what are these changes you speak of?


Umm, yeah, maybe proof read your posts, this makes no sense.


Welcome to the internet, you must be new around here. If people act like fools, they are treated as such.

Lmfao ezwal added paragraphs!

I gank by myself, -10.0, no spotters, no scouts, no alts: only my beauty and you! Mr pompin

If you want the rewards of lowsec exploration, everyone expects you to be diligent about your safety.

If you want the rewards of highsec mining, you also should be diligent. The dangers are less for the miner than the explorer, but they are there.

A ten million ISK permit purchase is a good investment for one. Won't protect you from non-CODE. gankers, but as long as you are CODE compliant, you've got a good 80% less risk.

Blood and feathers should be a corp or alliance name.

More times than not if you were ganked you were not at the keyboard when it happened. I have maximized the possible sporting chance I give to my gank targets. Prior to the gank I land an alt in the belt and move next to target. Usually I'm in a hauler. Not mining. Within 500M. Then I land on my alt in a catalyst. I do not fit a point. If my target mashes the warp button, he is away and free, leaving me crying ganker tears and waiting for my CONCORD punishment. This sequence takes 3 - 5 minutes.

Simply paying a minimal amount of attention to your surroundings will keep you almost perfectly safe.

Would you walk around a bad part of town late at night counting a stack of cash? Probably shouldn't leave your expensive mining ship unattended on a belt either.