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oohthey ioh
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-12-05 20:56:57 UTC
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Proddy Scun
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-12-06 12:59:28 UTC
In Game Gambling could be attached to contest boards where victory conditions were set for each side

(kill FC or whole fleet, guard specific ship, etc maybe with in time limit)
Proddy Scun
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-12-06 13:00:50 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Proddy Scun wrote:
CCP needs to consider releasing a subset of EVE for all those PVP players with big fangs, Killboard OCD, and no love for industry, marketing, plot, or traveling from system to system in EVE. This rather than slowly changing the main game to go there anyway due to demands of the large "get me into PVP now" crowd.

Actually, this is a PVP game, and recent changes have benefited industrialists immensely while providing much smaller advantages to piracy. The only reason CCP is showing support for industry is out of recognition for its value to everyone's ability to blow each other up. So in a way, the industry bonuses are a roundabout way of making it easier/cheaper to gank industrialists, among other things.


A valid perspective.

I am just floating an alternate way of looking at things.
Proddy Scun
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-12-06 13:10:21 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
Proddy Scun wrote:
Anhenka wrote:
Or we could maintain giant space empires and force all the backboneless renters, pets, and highseccers too scared to go below .5 to subsidize our activities like we currently do.

I for one prefer having my PvP be paid for by renters and moons rather then having to buy plex for it.

P.S Gadget: This sounds more like a PvE fanatic trying to deport all the PvPr's, not a PvPr trying to erect some crazy version of a PvP server.



Actually I did say it was someone interested in stopping the streaming of the current EVE to let pure PVP people get to the action without all the complex details.

I don't think all the PVP players are "bad". Plenty of great PVp players who actually get involved with supporting industry as guards or (gasp) even do industry stuff themselves occasionally on the side. Plenty who don't do industry still accept the " full story encumberments" and mechanics instead of petiotig for them to be streamlined away.



But EVE has a Great combat system which could stand on its own for many players. And unfortunatetly that is ALL some players are really interested in. And their votes are heard at CSM time and by CCP. In this case I think CCP could make one group happier without a lot of new code and without making as many other groups unhappy in main stream game.



Sure I do realize that some PVP Oriented corps and game friends would see a spin-off combat only game as a threat to their membership. But really most of the more mature PVP players would play both if the spin-off was just part of the subscription package.

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And maybe some of the immature players would get addicted to the spinoff combat only game and stay long enough to mature and join in playing the mainstream EVE game with full story and complexity.


Except that both loss and difficulty to replace are both factors of what makes PvP in eve satisfying. If we go out and trash an enemy fleet, and all it takes is them docking back up to get a new ship, then it's pointless. Might as well stage brawls on the test server.

If someone still has to build the ships and people still have to earn money to buy them, then might as well play on the normal server.

The only possible thing that you propose of any interest is highly functional kilboards. And why the hell would CCP not go ahead and offer them to everyone?

As a pvp player, I have not one shred of interest in this special server of yours, where my activities have no impact on a larger scale. I wish to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, hear the lamentations of their women.

Not stand around in a dueling circle, kill another PvPer, exchange lip service non bitter GF's all around, then back to station to easily pick up another ship. Boring.



Exactly my point. But I do think there is some danger of thatsystem being eroded.

And the test server should be good place for people to vent excess PVP rage. But several problems occur including Mac guys and some other always seem to have issue installing and there is no official killboard. In fact I am not sure there is an API to get killmail confirmation from the test server. So that sort of blocks satisfaction for the Epeen types.

Again looking at those people insulted by the idea of grinding for ISK, CONCORD, null sec sovereignty, industrial processes and all that other stuff that keeps them from getting precisely the kind of match they desire on demand/instantly. And who consistently vote to change the main game to eliminate any obstacles from that satisfaction.
Shivanthar
#25 - 2014-12-06 13:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Shivanthar
Create your cage pvp system in less than 10 steps!

1- Self-destruct your pod.
2- Have friends/ppl give your head a billion bounty by asking etc...
3- Don't create a med clone.
4- Find a wormhole and bookmark it.
5- Warp to it and enter it with your pvp ship of choice.
6- Warp to any entity without bookmarking entrance.
7- Type "kill me if you can" in local every 10 min.
8- There your new home cage of people trying to kill you.
9- There your near-permadeath hardcore eve.

Happy hunting! ^_^

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#26 - 2014-12-06 15:31:46 UTC
The people who want PvP as described in OP already have a place to go: Singularity.

They do go there, too.
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-12-06 19:27:37 UTC
I like EVE PvP because there are no rules. It's a far more strategic game than some dumb arena that limits you unnecessarily. I'm not alone in this. A lot of people would up and ditch this game if PvP became an arena affair.

Firm -1.

No.

- all the 1s.

Grrr.
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