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CCP Avalon
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#21 - 2014-12-06 04:26:16 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Avalon
Just squeezing in edge wise here. In September I received a complaint from a player regarding inconsistency in date formats on our websites. Since then some of our pages have been updated to use the ISO8601 standard, but hunting down rogue dates stamps is not among our highest priorities.

Any new pages that may rise from our development should have the aforementioned standard of dates, while other sites may be mended over time. Long live yyyy-MM-dd.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#22 - 2014-12-06 06:33:31 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I laughed a bit at the part of OP's post where he say that the rest of the world uses ddmmyy...

Obligaroty http://xkcd.com/1179/

/c


I suddenly have strong opinions about ISO 8601 date formats

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Alexa Machavela
KarmaFleet University
#23 - 2014-12-06 07:02:06 UTC
CCP Avalon wrote:
Just squeezing in edge wise here. In September I received a complaint from a player regarding inconsistency in date formats on our websites. Since then some of our pages have been updated to use the ISO8601 standard, but hunting down rogue dates stamps is not among our highest priorities.

Any new pages that may rise from our development should have the aforementioned standard of dates, while other sites may be mended over time. Long live yyyy-mm-dd.


'Murica player here.

I fully endorse your choice for date standardization. Coincidentally, it's the same one I use for all my internet needs, not just in this game of spaceships. I never understood the idea of swapping the month and day anyway. I mean, when's the last time anyone wrote the time as HH:SS:MM?

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Serene Repose
#24 - 2014-12-06 10:50:23 UTC
Oh, sorry. I thought it said "Date Floor Mats" My bad! NVM.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#25 - 2014-12-06 11:15:15 UTC
I'm using yyyymmddhhmmss in my current eve project.. it's soooooo useful for database sorting/queries. You'll easily understand the use if you do some coding/spreadsheet scripts.

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CCP Explorer
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C C P Alliance
#26 - 2014-12-06 11:15:24 UTC
Pugilismus wrote:
Am I the only one (I hear now the chorus of YES!) who is forced to do a double-take when looking at dates in the launcher and elsewhere because CCP insists on using US-format dates (mmddyy) when the rest of the world uses ddmmyy?

It's not a huge deal but it is a bit annoying - CCP, can you please start to use the worldwide standard for dates? It's more logical too!
We try to be consistent and use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 for dates and times. This is, e.g., what the EVE Forums use. In a few places we use that standard but with . (dot) as the delimiter, e.g., in the EVE Client and EVE Gate. The EVE Launcher, unfortunately, uses neither of those standards/conventions.

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2014-12-06 11:17:24 UTC
Pugilismus wrote:
... in the launcher and elsewhere...
What "elsewhere"? Can you list them, please, so I can take a look?

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2014-12-06 11:18:24 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
They're not exactly consistent on formats, the game uses American English instead of European English for the spelling of words.
How is that inconsistent? Yes, we use "English (US)".

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-12-06 12:43:59 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Pugilismus wrote:
Am I the only one (I hear now the chorus of YES!) who is forced to do a double-take when looking at dates in the launcher and elsewhere because CCP insists on using US-format dates (mmddyy) when the rest of the world uses ddmmyy?

It's not a huge deal but it is a bit annoying - CCP, can you please start to use the worldwide standard for dates? It's more logical too!


Wait.... there are countries other than America?


Yeah.

There is the country of the gardeners to the south and the land of the extremely friendly people to the north.

The rest I dont know aboutP

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#30 - 2014-12-06 12:47:59 UTC
Date formats? Can I do a Cosby joke or is it too soon still?

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-12-06 12:49:05 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Pugilismus wrote:
... in the launcher and elsewhere...
What "elsewhere"? Can you list them, please, so I can take a look?


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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-12-06 13:40:26 UTC
The American numerical date convention came about as a shortening of the traditional American written form: December 6th, 2014. The day part (conceptually) was "December sixth", the year part was a qualifier.

Having said that, when I record the date with my signature on paperwork, I always hand-write it like 6 Dec 2014 unless the format is specified.

On a computer: ISO 8601, there is no other way.

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CCP Explorer
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#33 - 2014-12-06 13:42:17 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Pugilismus wrote:
... in the launcher and elsewhere...
What "elsewhere"? Can you list them, please, so I can take a look?
Account management transaction history.
Buddy program past invites.
Date on EULA (Updated April 16, 2012)
Forum moderation policy (Revised 01/08/2014)
Thanks; please note that EULA date format is correct, since it's being spelled out as "April" then the English (US) convention applies.

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Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#34 - 2014-12-06 14:55:59 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Pugilismus wrote:
... in the launcher and elsewhere...
What "elsewhere"? Can you list them, please, so I can take a look?


The RSS feeds has been using central Mars date since forever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=rsstopic&pg=posts&t=389627

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CCP Avalon
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#35 - 2014-12-06 15:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Avalon
Mr M wrote:
The RSS feeds has been using central Mars date since forever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=rsstopic&pg=posts&t=389627

The RSS feed provides a combined date and time in ISO 8601. (You should find the same format in all our other feeds.)

Example: 2014-12-06T14:55:59Z

How you receive the DateTime of the post may depend on your browser or RSS reader. Chrome gives you the unmodified ISO 8601 date-time, while Firefox gives you something more along the lines of 2014.12.06 14:55.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-12-07 00:14:55 UTC
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Now, we have countries....

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Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#37 - 2014-12-07 08:01:05 UTC
Darth Terona
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Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2014-12-07 08:47:34 UTC
All my dates in game are yyyyddmm
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-12-07 09:11:41 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Arronicus wrote:
They're not exactly consistent on formats, the game uses American English instead of European English for the spelling of words.
How is that inconsistent? Yes, we use "English (US)".

As it should be. Cool
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#40 - 2014-12-07 10:59:56 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Arronicus wrote:
They're not exactly consistent on formats, the game uses American English instead of European English for the spelling of words.
How is that inconsistent? Yes, we use "English (US)".

As it should be. Cool

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