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Aiyshimin

Mea Culpa.

Shadow Cartel

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#21 - 2014-12-05 18:39:32 UTC

Ryd Berg wrote:

I like the idea of a second set of marauders, these would use the secondary weapon sets of each race (or first weapon set for gal)
So I think it would be
amarr - drones
caldari - hybrids
minmatar - missles
gallente - drones, actually just move the kronos to the second set and have the drone using marauder as the original.

These ships wouldnt be very unique, just another choice for elite pve. If someone starts out training drones for lvl 4s, they get shafted when it comes to marauders.

Anyone who trains anything just to run lvl 4s is shafting himself

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Bl1SkR1N 13th HOUR Likes received: 72	#22 - 2014-12-05 18:43:44 UTC 1 There is also rattlesnake if you want superior BS hull. But honestly drones and their hulls need more tweaking before adding something more. Ishtar is still kinda ridiculous with no other hac being able to perform in ways it does for that price.

Bronson Hughes

The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration

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#23 - 2014-12-05 18:49:27 UTC

Azure Moonlight wrote:

Hey folks, its such a shame that the best drone boat currently in the game is a T1 battleship, namely the Dominix. Even the Navy Dominix is worse (as a pure drone boat). The only other ship I would call decent is the Rattlesnake, but that one is rather a hybrid.

Please bring some sort of more expansive (read better) T2 or faction drone boat to upgrade from the Dominix or rethink the skill boni on the Dominix Navy Issue to make it an actual upgrade from the Dominix.

Exactly what are you looking for in terms of an upgrade/alternative that the Ishtar, Navy Vexor, 'Geddon, Sin, or Rattlesnake don't provide? Higher drone damage? Longer sentry drone range? More fitting/tank? Knowing these may make the discussion go a bit more smoothly.

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Daichi Yamato

Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass

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#24 - 2014-12-05 23:40:31 UTC

Azure Moonlight wrote:

Daichi Yamato wrote:

With the rebalancing of ships, many navy variants got a slight role difference to their T1 counterparts, making some T1 ships even better at that one particular thing they do.

honestly i prefer it this way and dont see a need for an even bigger better drone focused ship.

Then let me repeat myself; drones are the only weapon skill where you have no way to upgrade from a T1 battleship hull. With every other weapon skill Eve offers you a choice to invest more isk and therefore risk more to fly a ship more capable to get the job done.

That is the ishtar, sin, any carrier and even the navy domi and rattler fit that description to the letter.

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Meyr

Di-Tron Heavy Industries

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#25 - 2014-12-06 07:16:42 UTC

I don't think asking for a pure drone-based pirate/navy hull, with Dominix bonuses, and maybe a tank bonus (good brawler candidate?) would be too upsetting to the current balance.

Not 'Super Drones', nothing more than what the Domi currently has, maybe with a slightly larger drone bay, possibly 25 or 50 m3, with 6 unbonused highs lots, just like now (unless you want to throw in a Logi bonus).

I would also LOVE to finally see an armor/missile (EoM anyone?) pirate faction brought into availability.

James Baboli

Warp to Pharmacy

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#26 - 2014-12-06 08:05:03 UTC

Meyr wrote:

EOM is hybrids on amarr hulls last I checked.

Nestor is a slightly toned down domi with tank and RR bonus already, meaning they're a straight upgraded version of spider domis.

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Call Rollard

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#27 - 2014-12-06 12:48:22 UTC | Edited by: Call Rollard

The best drone ship in the game I'd say is a Thanatos which is a Carrier, or even a Rattlesnake.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235324 - there was a Navy ship 'balancing'. The thing is only the Fleet Tempest, Navy Raven and sometimes the Navy Armagedden. So the Navy Domi doesn't really balance up against the normal one Price wise well.

Drone ships aren't the only ships in EVE. Others can be much more effective for PVE than them. Bear

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Shivanthar Likes received: 171	#28 - 2014-12-06 12:58:55 UTC +1 I see a Drone Marauder on my sphere! _Half _the lies they tell about me aren't true.

Zan Shiro

Doomheim

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#29 - 2014-12-06 14:01:09 UTC | Edited by: Zan Shiro

There'd be an issue with this t2 drone maruader. CCP kind of nerfed snipe garde use. This would bring that back.

As the common maruader bonus is you know.....range (in bastion).

And fit depending domi can already tank. It was kind of the the reason out of wh areas got rat ago shift. Remember the good ole days of aft domi? Sure you do....drop in room, get all the aggro, release drones, walk away for minutes at a time and not die....

Now don't say change out its bonus. Slippery slope there...as golem pilots would be going they ccp, can we get a different bonus too? Since we can argue range bonus on cruiser golem is kind of a meh bonus. As cruise already has range.

Shivanthar

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#30 - 2014-12-07 07:54:46 UTC

All your points are valid @Zan. Especially ones about range.
Just making it out; but the unique thing about drone marauder might be simply more drones on subcap ^_^
Let's say, it has a very unique ability that makes it possible to launch at once;
15 light drones
OR 10 medium drones
OR 7 heavy drones
OR 5 sentries.

^_^

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Jurico Elemenohpe Flipsid3 Tactics Likes received: 79	#31 - 2014-12-07 08:26:43 UTC Rattlesnake is equal to a Dominix with only its role bonus if the dominix has gal bs 5. Want a drone boat bigger than the dominix? Get a carrier.

Donnachadh

United Allegiance of Undesirables

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#32 - 2014-12-08 00:23:29 UTC

Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:

Rattlesnake is equal to a Dominix with only its role bonus if the dominix has gal bs 5.
Want a drone boat bigger than the dominix? Get a carrier.

I get the sense that it is not so much bigger and better but different, consider it a mini carrier if you will, a ship that is in the BS class but all drones, no guns or missiles. I would like to see this as well, the Rattle and the Domi's are nice ships but they are not the same as this type of a ship.