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Low Sec MAG Site T2 BPC's -- Broken or Bad luck

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Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#1 - 2011-12-16 15:57:20 UTC
Hi and thanks for helping.

In the week after Crucible dropped I was lucky enough to hit several nice mag's in low sec and score almost a dozen of the new T2 BPC's. The random luck of the draw saw a few useless one's, small drone repair augmentor and sentry drone augmentor, as wel as a number of very nice drops, the best of which was a large Semi-Conductor Memory Cell.

My problem however has been in the last week. I haven't seen a single one drop. From the easiest sites with no rats to the more difficult multispawn's zip zilch nadda. I've been getting decent T2 component drops but the BPC's seem to have dried up. Essence, Everyshore, Sinq, Metropolis, Heimatar, Domain, no change.

Has anyone else noticed this or having the same issue ?

Were they dropping to easily the first week and now they'll be rarer and less frequent ?

Thanks in advance for the feedback, and if anyone wants a Sentry Damage Augmentor for their Ishkur or Worm make me an interesting offer.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#2 - 2011-12-16 15:59:16 UTC
If you can't handle dry spells, exploration is not for you. You are guaranteed nothing when exploring.

It happens. Move along.
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#3 - 2011-12-16 16:04:40 UTC
Every time I see a "explo-nerf" thread I cry a little bit. Salazar's point is exactly appropriate, exploration is a long-term numbers game, you WILL see short-term (hell, even medium term) dry spells.
Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#4 - 2011-12-16 16:15:31 UTC
Aside from stating the stupidly obvious, this was meant as a general survey.

Are others people experiencing the same issue or not.

Week 1 I was averaging a T2BPC drop every second site, now the last 30 have dropped zip.

If you're still getting drops I'd love to hear it.
Dztrgovac
#5 - 2011-12-16 20:08:08 UTC
Oh for the love of god enough of this.

I haven't done any low-sec radars and mags but I constantly chat with people who do. Apparently not much change for radars, maybe a small buff. Mags drop rig BPCs much more but total average income appears to still be not even half of what radars will give you. Hisec mags maybe drop a bit more; sadly I didn't have patience to do more than a handful of them; and they were as pathetic as before the patch. Hisec radars have maybe increased a bit or I had good luck; in two days of complete epic fail of looking for Angel hisec DEDs I got nice bit of cash from radars; maybe quite close to what lowsec radars used to give.


Problem with exploration and statistics is that you can at best do a handful of sites before losing patience and going to do something else. You pretty much have to keep notes and only talk about something dropping too little or too much after couple weeks of bookkeeping.


EVE exploration is not Diablo 2 where you can run nightmare Mephisto hundred times a day and get a good idea on how much what drops.
SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#6 - 2011-12-16 20:13:08 UTC
I have to agree with all the above answers. The only thing wrong with exploration is way too many people doing it.Ugh
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#7 - 2011-12-16 20:32:30 UTC
Dztrgovac wrote:


EVE exploration is not Diablo 2 where you can run nightmare Mephisto hundred times a day and get a good idea on how much what drops.


Damn you nostalgia Cry

I know what I'll be playing this weekend...
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#8 - 2011-12-16 20:33:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Emperor Salazar
Havegun Willtravel wrote:


Week 1 I was averaging a T2BPC drop every second site, now the last 30 have dropped zip.


Unless you have a sample size that matters and data that is formatted in more than your anecdotal memory, you weren't "averaging" anything. Do you really think the drop calculation is calculated as:

Player A runs a site. It will drop nothing for him.

Oh Player A is running another site. As this is his second site, it will drop something.

I think St. Mio said it best: every site, every can, every overseer, every escalation chance, every single instance in exploration is a separate event. A separate calculation. There is no "every 3 sites I should get an escalation."
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#9 - 2011-12-16 21:02:52 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:

I think St. Mio said it best: every site, every can, every overseer, every escalation chance, every single instance in exploration is a separate event. A separate calculation. There is no "every 3 sites I should get an escalation."

Indeed. This is also the reason casino's starting showing roulette players the past few rolls. Previous occurrences have absolutely no impact on the next occurrence, but most people confuse previous occurrences with consecutive events, which are totally different.

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Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#10 - 2011-12-16 21:52:02 UTC
Thanks for the replies, even though none deal with the question i posted.

Thus I'l try to rerephrase this better:

If you are active in low sec exploration, and you've run mag sites in the last week to ten days, have you gotten a T2 BPC drop ?

thanks.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#11 - 2011-12-17 00:13:41 UTC
Havegun Willtravel wrote:
If you are active in low sec exploration, and you've run mag sites in the last week to ten days, have you gotten a T2 BPC drop ?

thanks.


I think so, yes ... not sure if it was in lowsec tho. But dude really what is your expectation? You think just because you hit these sites often you will have to get that stuff? I am beginning to lean towards the attitude of other posters here and hope that you get bored quickly and leave for other stuff...
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#12 - 2011-12-17 00:44:53 UTC
Havegun Willtravel wrote:
Thanks for the replies, even though none deal with the question i posted.

Thus I'l try to rerephrase this better:

If you are active in low sec exploration, and you've run mag sites in the last week to ten days, have you gotten a T2 BPC drop ?

thanks.


You are literally a moron.
Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#13 - 2011-12-17 02:25:09 UTC
"Emperor Salazar - You are literally a moron "

And you are demonstrably both illiterate and ignorant.

So far the closest thing to a reply to my question has been " I think so, yes ".

" But dude really what is your expectation? " Certainly not an intelligent response at this point.

It's such a simple question. It's not about drop mechanics, calculations, statisics, or expectations.

Have you got a T2 BPC is the last week ?

Thanks in advance to anyone who posts a relevant intelligent reply.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#14 - 2011-12-17 03:31:03 UTC
So you want people to collect data for you because you are too lazy to do more than a handul of sites before crying on the forums that something is wrong because you arent getting drops every other side like you surely used to?

You are doing nothing more than demonstrating your flawed understanding of drop mechanics.

Also please look up the words illiterate and ignorant, as I think you have a misunderstanding of their definitions.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#15 - 2011-12-17 03:51:57 UTC
Jeez, the guy just wants to check if drop mechanics have been altered/broken since the patch. He doesn't need a bunch of wanna-be pros lecturing him on stuff he already knows.

This thread is full of douchebags.

Anyway, sorry dude I have no idea, I ignore mag sites :(

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Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#16 - 2011-12-17 14:17:34 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Jeez, the guy just wants to check if drop mechan
ics have been altered/broken since the patch. He doesn't need a bunch of wanna-be pros lecturing him on stuff he already knows.

This thread is full of douchebags.

Anyway, sorry dude I have no idea, I ignore mag sites :(


Yeah fortunately we have white knights like you to be constructive in their posts.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2011-12-17 14:33:57 UTC
Havegun Willtravel wrote:
Thanks for the replies, even though none deal with the question i posted.

Thus I'l try to rerephrase this better:

If you are active in low sec exploration, and you've run mag sites in the last week to ten days, have you gotten a T2 BPC drop ?

thanks.



I will trade you my collected Data for yours if yours includes at least 300 lowsec sites with timestamps, drops, and all other pertinent data.

Or I'll sell it to you for 200mil


(Hint: I have no data, and if I did, I certainly wouldn't give it out for free.)

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Blake Walan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-17 19:08:57 UTC
Its an easy enough question folks, he never asked anything aside from if neone had bpc drops this past week. I have only run a hand full this week and and have not seen one drop so not sure. As a rule of thumb tho i only run mags in null.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#19 - 2011-12-17 19:14:34 UTC
Blake Walan wrote:
Its an easy enough question folks, he never asked anything aside from if neone had bpc drops this past week. I have only run a hand full this week and and have not seen one drop so not sure. As a rule of thumb tho i only run mags in null.


No he implied with anecdotal observations that things had changed post patch and then requested that people provide him data so that he could verify his ignorant conclusions.
Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#20 - 2011-12-17 21:27:19 UTC
"No he implied with anecdotal observations that things had changed post patch and then requested that people provide him data so that he could verify his ignorant conclusions. "

No I asked if anyone had gotten a drop.

You ignorantly assumed like the imbecile you are that i was requesting data instead of factual results. You then compounded you stupidity with additional off topic drivel about dry spells and the randomness of loot drop rates which further demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension. Considering the pathetic state of your contract history it's not surprising. Your demonstrable lack of success in the field of exploration is self evident and your irrelevant and useless commentaries are proof positive of that fact.

And I found 2 T2 BPC's today. So for what it's worth I answered my own question.

Have fun and gl to everyone in your adventures.
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