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412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2014-11-30 05:10:22 UTC  |  Edited by: 412nv Yaken
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Someone shoot me, I gave Veers a LIKE Oops


You would need to undock for that. Zing!


Good one agent Big smile

Respect from the gank fleet you were in last night your damage was on point!

A True Champion of High Security Space
emylie ramstein
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2014-12-01 11:39:49 UTC
#32 - 2014-11-26 01:19:13 UTC | Like Seriously guys. If all you looked at was that Golem kill, you are missing out

https://zkillboard.com/character/92386597/

Perfect example of having money but no sense? Seriously you are gonna fill your head with that much isk and not figure out how to get your pod out in HS?


22.784.284.643 ISK for 28.998 EHP............

When I see this I applaud the little farm ganking ........ I L4 in Gila with 55,000 EHP 650 DPS which is more than enough for a little challenge on PVE L4 kind "the blockade or Enemies Abound "but to walk around with a ship has almost 23 billion and not even 29 k ehp .............. it's just" scream "I'm a big hamburger eating me quickly !!!!!

in respect of minors who are gank is 95% the same thing ...... that want the max Yeld and wanders with - 10k ehp ..... did little to put intelligence or there is no place ....... if people think in the long term instead of Yeld / min the gank become obsolete .....
I skiff 1 year mine fitted tank and ship lost 0 = x ISK
I mine Mack fitted Yeld 1 year and 20-year-old ship lost 1 ISK = X
I mine Hulk 1 year and 30 fitted Yeld ship lost in 1 year = X ISK

they are "fictitious" figures, but an absolute reality "try" to understand that the winner finnal is especially not the +% Yeld but the tank - Yeld% without loss or almost zero in ship ^ ^ .......

I play for 4 years and I am not old but I never erode with 6 k ehp as I rarely see on the kill board .... I am against gank which for me na no challenge for kill a guys with 20 vs 1 by advocating the finnal "pro pvp" but when I see people crying to be gank with 6k ehp I congratulate the ganking little bit ...... -Being that one day the "weeping" understand that one ship that is also fitt .....

to sum up:

1 you assigned a number of L4 with 1300 dps and 30k ehp BS and a value of 20 billion??? live the Gank
2 max Yeld you mine with 5 k ehp????? live the Gank

sorry for my English so poor
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#83 - 2014-12-01 15:15:39 UTC
412nv Yaken wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Someone shoot me, I gave Veers a LIKE Oops


You would need to undock for that. Zing!


Good one agent Big smile

Respect from the gank fleet you were in last night your damage was on point!


I'm not an agent. I'm an elite PvE player - and I oppose both CHODE and Marmite.
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2014-12-02 10:17:28 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
412nv Yaken wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Someone shoot me, I gave Veers a LIKE Oops


You would need to undock for that. Zing!


Good one agent Big smile

Respect from the gank fleet you were in last night your damage was on point!


I'm not an agent. I'm an elite PvE player - and I oppose both CHODE and Marmite.


Ok veers...

See you in fleet tomorrow

A True Champion of High Security Space
Allas-Ruii
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2014-12-05 07:34:16 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
For those who don't get why you dual tank officer mod fitted ships in highsec.

#CompleteLackOfSituationalAwareness

But please do keep parroting the no dual tank screed, while the purple fitted ships keep xploding.


Please, please come clean. You have to be trolling with this.


Ok, Sherlock....time to give you some clues.

Assume you have a Machariel....you decide to regal it in purple. So in addition to your two A type adaptive and X type shield booster, as well as X type AB, you have 1 open spot. You throw in a purple tracking computer, and now your mids are full. In your lows, you decide to be baller and throw in 4 purple gyros, leaving you with spots. Your rigs are all cap boost rigs.

So what do do you do with your 3 lows? Well one is obv a DC (a form of hull tanking, dual tanking ftw!). And the last 2? Well let's ponder. We have massively more gank than we need to tears through any rats. The only threat to us is gankers. And nothing we put in the last 2 slots will materially boost shields. So what do we do? Throw in some armor resist mods to nicely boost our armor ehp.

We have now made it significantly harder for gankers to kill us, they will need more people and bigger ships, which makes ganking a lot less likely.

And that, folks, is why you ALWAYS dual tank officer fit mission ships in highsec.


How about not putting Purple and ridiculously expensive blues and faction mods on sub caps in HS? Trust me, you can do Level 4 missions in a basic T1 battleship using a basic T2 fit. If you do so, no one will bother you and if you do get blown up, who cares? Fly in dumb-**** like this and you even get hardened carebears to jump into a catalyst.

What does using a fit like that do? subtract maybe 5 minutes off the time it takes to complete a mission? Is it really worth a major loss like this? Serious questions.
Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#86 - 2014-12-05 09:12:39 UTC
Allas-Ruii wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
For those who don't get why you dual tank officer mod fitted ships in highsec.

#CompleteLackOfSituationalAwareness

But please do keep parroting the no dual tank screed, while the purple fitted ships keep xploding.


Please, please come clean. You have to be trolling with this.


Ok, Sherlock....time to give you some clues.

Assume you have a Machariel....you decide to regal it in purple. So in addition to your two A type adaptive and X type shield booster, as well as X type AB, you have 1 open spot. You throw in a purple tracking computer, and now your mids are full. In your lows, you decide to be baller and throw in 4 purple gyros, leaving you with spots. Your rigs are all cap boost rigs.

So what do do you do with your 3 lows? Well one is obv a DC (a form of hull tanking, dual tanking ftw!). And the last 2? Well let's ponder. We have massively more gank than we need to tears through any rats. The only threat to us is gankers. And nothing we put in the last 2 slots will materially boost shields. So what do we do? Throw in some armor resist mods to nicely boost our armor ehp.

We have now made it significantly harder for gankers to kill us, they will need more people and bigger ships, which makes ganking a lot less likely.

And that, folks, is why you ALWAYS dual tank officer fit mission ships in highsec.


How about not putting Purple and ridiculously expensive blues and faction mods on sub caps in HS? Trust me, you can do Level 4 missions in a basic T1 battleship using a basic T2 fit. If you do so, no one will bother you and if you do get blown up, who cares? Fly in dumb-**** like this and you even get hardened carebears to jump into a catalyst.

What does using a fit like that do? subtract maybe 5 minutes off the time it takes to complete a mission? Is it really worth a major loss like this? Serious questions.
Well if it saves 5 minutes on a 15 minute mission, that's an extra 50% isk/hour. If you make 30m/hour now, that gets you to 45. Let's just say 40. So you've spent 10(?)bn on the fit, and you make an extra 10m/hour. That's like 1000 hours to pay it back. Let's assume you're not stupid, you buy it on an alt, haul it safely without being followed and run missions in a back water system and you never get ganked.
If you run missions for 10 hours a day, you end up making like 30bn/year extra. That's 2.5bn/month extra. That doesn't include the 4 months to make the isk back though.