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Makes perfect sense.

You activate a non-passive module against someone, Concord pays a friendly visit. You don't activate a module, Concord leaves you well alone.

So in this case, a freighter/etc. clumsily moves around in space failing to get out of the way of other ships, Concord doesn't kill it.

Concord probably should.

No moving the goalpost buddy, op is about Freighters. And where did the Plex come from...

Title says "survive Freighter bumping," emphasis mine.

If you're getting bumped and not dying, you've already survived.

You're welcome.

Edit: So yeah, across all of hisec, only two freighters failed to survive yesterday. Two out of quite literally thousands of active freighters. This thread is nothing but hot air from armchair crybabies.

Just because EVE is safe for competent players doesn't mean that it should be safe for incompetent players. The logic doesn't flow.


Looks like you're at least finally getting to the point where you're addressing the issue at hand.

I see....I didn't realize that every single carrier that AFK rats in Dekklein dies. That should be in the Eve book of world records.

Easy. Get an alt in a cheap frig with as much mid-slots as possible filled with webs. Wait for a bump and for the mach to line up for another bump. Have your alt set the light to red and web the mach with all your webs as soon as he is 10+ km away from your freighter. The mach will be going so slow that even if he bumps you, it wont be by much. You should have more than enough time to have your freighter warp away. Also, concord will be on the field soon thereafter if you fail helping protect you from any ganks.

If that's true, it's because the players who hold sov made it, and keep it, that way. What, you think no effort goes into it? Of course you do, you've never been there, not to mention you never bother to try taking space for yourself. If it's so safe, as you say, then why aren't you ratting there? Why aren't you there taking out the ratters?

Before commenting on null you should actually spend some time there. Nothing you just said was accurate.

I wasn't around back then, so I don't know what his story actually is. I'm just kind of assuming at this point that he's playing devil's advocate.

I'll still vote for him in the CSM though, just so I can troll myself.

Hmmm....Let's be clear here. Nullsec is big, empty, and boring, for the most part. It's the perfect place to do AFK PvE. It also has really exciting PvP fleet fights between large groups. Think PL. That's why so much of the new Eve trailer focused on nullsec...people are drawn to Eve for the large scale nullsec fleet battles. That's one of the core parts of the game.

Did you notice what wasn't in the trailer? Suicide ganking? Nope. Awoxxing? Nope. Scamming? Nope. These are ways people get giggles. They are a lot of fun for the perpetrator, and really not fun for the victim. They are not a core part of the game.

Now highsec and nullsec are both really, really safe. And that's ok. The Eve economy relies on large scale mining and isk producing operations. If space were dangerous, PvE would get harder, and economic growth would collapse. I personally have little problem with the current safety of highsec and sov null. There is nothing wrong with them being safe.

Now...pvp in highsec. Some suicide ganking...bunch of wars, which either involve PvE players too uninformed to roll corp, and hence getting slaughtered...or essentially mutual wars for giggles, like RvB. Some suicide ganking...almost all of helpless miners and haulers. Does it matter much? Nope. Do people come to Eve because of it? Nope. Do we really need it? Nope. It's a tiny fraction of the game, mostly done for tears and rage, and contributes very little. That's why it didn't feature in the new trailer - it just isn't that much of a draw. It's an annoyance, not a feature.

Now I'm ok with suicide ganking in highsec....it does keep the bling to acceptable levels, and provides some level of interest and amusement. I think the bumping is pure nonsense...no reason you should be able to trap ships without consequences. And a much longer GCC timer for -10s is needed...criminal justice should be effective.

But let's not lose sight here....nonconsensual PvP in highsec just isn't that important...it isn't what draws people to Eve...it isn't what stimulates the economy...and it isn't what CCP wants to feature about the game. It's just a mild annoyance, mainly done for rage and tears. To the extent it should be kept at all, it should at least be in reasonable bounds.