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Hi all!
So, there is such a proposal: Why not make necessary for all ships to pour fuel?
Ofcourse for small ships it will cost lesser then for large ones.
Perhaps the introduction of the parameter for ships "fuel consumption" or something like that.
These changes will translate economy on a new level of realism!
People will have to consider the logistics, how much my ship "eating", how much the road will cost etc. Just like in real life!
You will see a huge new industry in finding, mining, processing and saling the fuel.
I know about existing of such for jumpers and POSs, but it's a whole different level.
This will affect all activities in EVE.

P.S. sorry for my english, hope you'll share my views.

Well, the only attractive thing in low/null secs is hight-quality resourses.
So we can placing there or using already existing there resourses for the production of fuel for some types of ships.
Simple example:
Frigs and Destroyers uses Fuel I, that can be extracted and produced in hi/low/null sec.
Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Industrials and Battleships uses Fuel II, that can be extracted ONLY in low/null sec.
Carriers, Freighters, Dreads uses Fuel III from nulls.

Thus further increasing the attractiveness of low/null systems.

I've always thought that Eve ships were more like a Bussard ramjet in the way they produce power. They scoop up free floating hydrogen in the intersteallar medium, and run it through a fusion reactor to produce energy for normal operations. No need to add fuel, just lfy around.

And I obtain this in hostile space by...?

And I obtain this in a system with no station by...?

And I obtain this 15 jumps away from my regional market hub by...?


Why do you want to make it much, much harder to live away from highsec? Why do you want to remove the entire concept of extended roams, or living in hostile space? how does this benefit me, the line member and PVPing member of a nullsec group?


And hell. Clarify your damn idea. Is this racial like isotopes, or do all frigates use the same fuel? What happens when you run out? What possible benefit is there for any of this?

Um, no

I am just wondering if this is a stealth anti-afk cloaking thread

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I see far more negatives than positives with this proposal.

Not supported.

I think that it could be a great addition to the traveling system in EVE, if using fuel allowed us to bypass the use of gates.

It could be maybe used just in sub-capital ships. Instead of traveling from gate to gate, using fuel grants us the ability to travel to the star of an adjacent gate-connected system. Instead of forcing fuel into all of us, just add the fuel usage as an alternative of our actual traveling system.

This is such an excellent Fondon-approved idea that I think it deserves its own thread. I might do it someday.

Just like a Cap ship (before they could use gates) getting stuck in a system with no station..... so too will sub cap ships get stuck on hi-sec gates with no fuel and no station to help.

War targets rejoice!

+1

That idea is already in the game. It's called a Jump Portal Generator.

I absolutely love logistical style things like this in my single player games.

Just not in Eve.

My first reason for disliking this involves your "realism" point. It's not realistic to consider that a space fairing group as advanced as the Eve humans haven't perfected some form of reactors on their ships that require very little fuel already anyway. The comment about the Bussard ramjet pretty much sums this up. There shouldn't be a need for fuel for day to day operations.

The second reason involves the recent removal of the skill queue 24 hour limit, and the upcoming clone cost removal. CCP is in the process of removing these "busy work" mechanics that require you to do something before you actually get to play the game. Your fuel mechanic is the very definition of this: I must purchase this fuel before I can actually go and enjoy the aspect of the game I way to be doing. It would just add another thing to list of things you need to remember to do.

What if I want to go on a roam from the top of the map to the bottom? Would I be forced to stop along the way at "fuel stations" just so I can go and find someone to shoot? What about the miners who just sit there in front of rocks with lasers cycling? Do they use fuel for that too or are they exempt because they aren't moving? What happens if some "OTEC" style agreement is made between large alliances and coalitions with the fuel only available in 0.0, similar to what happened with Technetium? Does that mean no one else can fly caps because those guys are hording all the fuel for caps?

It just doesn't work in Eve in my opinion. It's just more busy work for the average pilot, and the last thing Eve needs is more busy work.