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Any thoughts on a Covert OP's Battlecruiser?
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Vicar2008
MCMLXXVI
#1 - 2014-12-04 18:20:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vicar2008
I know Battlecruisers aint exactly FOTM presently, but hey a Cov Ops version could be pretty neat?

DPS platforms but probably not BS weaponary this time around.

Regards

Vic
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2014-12-04 18:29:46 UTC
Alundil
Rolled Out
#3 - 2014-12-04 18:34:22 UTC
That would be my question as well. What niche would this fill our what purpose would it be for not already handled by one of the various configurations of T3 or recon cruisers?

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Phaade
Know-Nothings
Negative Feedback
#4 - 2014-12-04 18:44:26 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Why?


Why not?

It could be a the combat covert ops we all want. Combat covops = stratios, t3 cruisers, and black ops BS.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#5 - 2014-12-04 18:47:31 UTC
Base such a thing on the "brawly" combat battle cruisers of each race, remove their MMJD ability, 1.1x base HP with the reduced t2 resist profile for t2 battleships. Fairly tight fitting room for a t2 ship and voila.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-12-04 18:48:07 UTC
Phaade wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Why?


Why not?

It could be a the combat covert ops we all want. Combat covops = stratios, t3 cruisers, and black ops BS.


What would it do different than the 3 you mentionned?
Ulfric Aideran
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-12-04 19:14:21 UTC
I had been thinking the same thing recently. Can't think of a really compelling reason to add it, but I can't think of a reason not to add it either. It would give players more options. Maybe they could have some special abilities like oversized guns/torps.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#8 - 2014-12-04 19:18:02 UTC
T3s pretty much cover any kind of balanced covert ops use with a battlecruiser really.
Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Bear Works
#9 - 2014-12-04 20:14:06 UTC
-1
These ships would have no actual use, and adding ships for the sake of adding ships is never a good idea
Phaade
Know-Nothings
Negative Feedback
#10 - 2014-12-04 21:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Phaade
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Phaade wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Why?


Why not?

It could be a the combat covert ops we all want. Combat covops = stratios, t3 cruisers, and black ops BS.


What would it do different than the 3 you mentionned?



Stratios is an exploration cruiser. Can be used for combat but that's not the ships purpose. T3 cruisers are overpowered, I know, but they come with a high price and skill cost on death. Black ops BS is self explanatory... what is the difference between battleships and battle cruisers?

Smaller than BS, medium guns for smaller targets, not a t3, not an exploration vessel. Mid cost mid firepower mid size and speed.

But yeah, they are closest to t3's.

Honestly, I just wish that combat recon ships were covert. I'm not really sure why they are not. I can count on one hand how many times I've seen a Rook on field; it's always a Falcon.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#11 - 2014-12-04 23:09:53 UTC
sounds poo Big smile

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#12 - 2014-12-05 00:24:39 UTC
I forsee nerfage to such a ship on a scale that would make them pointless.

While the idea is enticing, it creates other issues: balance.

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Ele Rebellion
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-12-05 00:35:04 UTC
I like the idea because I believe it would introduce more forms of pvp. and the more the merrier imo.

The downside to this would probably be that with Battlecruiser CPU the Expanded Probe launcher would be fairly easy to fit and I know that most people don't want a Cov-Ops ships with enough Tank and DPS to be able to scan down and kill T3 boosters with a single ship. (I see no problem with it, but I know there are quite a few that do)


More Ships
More creative forms of combat
+1
Vicar2008
MCMLXXVI
#14 - 2014-12-09 16:45:22 UTC
Ele Rebellion wrote:
I like the idea because I believe it would introduce more forms of pvp. and the more the merrier imo.

The downside to this would probably be that with Battlecruiser CPU the Expanded Probe launcher would be fairly easy to fit and I know that most people don't want a Cov-Ops ships with enough Tank and DPS to be able to scan down and kill T3 boosters with a single ship. (I see no problem with it, but I know there are quite a few that do)


More Ships
More creative forms of combat
+1


Thanks for the support, yeah presently I see cov ops slightly hindered DPS wise between either Stealth Bomers or the longer train to Battleships Cov Ops, a battlecruier on route could in my mind be an option.