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Gorila for CSM10

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Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#1 - 2014-12-04 07:11:40 UTC
I wish to announce my candidacy for CSM10. I will not bore you with lengthy details of all I believe needs to be changed in the game.

Instead I will actively campaign for the removal of Veers Belvar and all of his alts from EVE.

Ripard Teg set precedent when he used his role as CSM and his blog to actively campaign against players he believed had committed torture. My beliefs on that matter are irrelevant.

I only wish to use Ripard’s CCP approved methods to remove Veers from the game as I believe any and all interaction with him qualifies as TORTURE.

GORILA FOR CSM10

Grrr..Veers
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#2 - 2014-12-04 07:25:15 UTC
Please show us where veers bevlar touched you on the model ship

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Six Beavers
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-12-04 09:10:06 UTC
I don't so much mind the pilot Veers as much as the troll Veers. If instead of running for CSMX you were to join ISD I would totally support you.

That said what is your official CSMX position on creating a highsec Small Claims Court run by pilots but enforced by
Concord?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-12-04 10:08:55 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Please show us where veers bevlar touched you on the model ship forum thread

Blink
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-12-04 10:35:33 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
Would OP mind to point out, why a self proclaimed antiganker gets more aggressive against another quite naive antiganker than against code?

Come down, calm down.
Veers called some gankers sociopaths? Others did too. I am sure i did it too. There has been much worse.
Like the erotica1 stuff, where i for myself assume some social missalignements in the already banned person.

This is the eve forum, as tough, sometimes even tougher then eve Chat.

So shut up und HTFU!

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-12-04 12:46:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tisiphone Dira
Sure sure, and once this crises has been averted do you promise to lay these powers down?

We've seen this all before. A dark shadowy and cloaked figure who manipulates his puppets from behind the scenes. Creates a crisis so that he can get himself elected, consolidating his power so that he can bring about a new age of space tyranny.

We in the New Order (The Jedi in this analogy) will not fall for this Sith plot! We will stop you!

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#7 - 2014-12-04 15:07:04 UTC
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.
Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#8 - 2014-12-04 15:34:49 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.



Wow Veers..did i hit a nerve? I have to point out the obvious, if you dont care then why even post?

#VeersNeverGetsTheJoke
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#9 - 2014-12-04 15:37:44 UTC
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.



Wow Veers..did i hit a nerve? I have to point out the obvious, if you dont care then why even post?

#VeersNeverGetsTheJoke


I feel the need to set the record straight against your pernicious personal attacks. Pretty lame to make a troll post in C&P about it. If you have a problem with me, come settle it in game. I heard Tornados work well for that. Otherwise, just shut up and move on. The ramblings of the latest CODE plaything are pretty pathetic. With "opponents" like you, no wonder CODE keeps on winning.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-12-04 16:08:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Silvetica Dian
Veers Belvar wrote:


....and yet I could care less about you.


a helpful link
video

you're welcome.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#11 - 2014-12-04 16:09:28 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.



Wow Veers..did i hit a nerve? I have to point out the obvious, if you dont care then why even post?

#VeersNeverGetsTheJoke


I feel the need to set the record straight against your pernicious personal attacks. Pretty lame to make a troll post in C&P about it. If you have a problem with me, come settle it in game. I heard Tornados work well for that. Otherwise, just shut up and move on. The ramblings of the latest CODE plaything are pretty pathetic. With "opponents" like you, no wonder CODE keeps on winning.



Personal attacks? I've made no personal attacks, I haven’t accused you of being a psychopath or sociopath or any of the personal attacks you've made at others. You've been braying at everyone for attention for a rather long time now Veers, Now that you’re getting it why are you crying at me?

As Loyal said; Veers Tears, Best Tears
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#12 - 2014-12-04 16:23:50 UTC
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.



Wow Veers..did i hit a nerve? I have to point out the obvious, if you dont care then why even post?

#VeersNeverGetsTheJoke


I feel the need to set the record straight against your pernicious personal attacks. Pretty lame to make a troll post in C&P about it. If you have a problem with me, come settle it in game. I heard Tornados work well for that. Otherwise, just shut up and move on. The ramblings of the latest CODE plaything are pretty pathetic. With "opponents" like you, no wonder CODE keeps on winning.



Personal attacks? I've made no personal attacks, I haven’t accused you of being a psychopath or sociopath or any of the personal attacks you've made at others. You've been braying at everyone for attention for a rather long time now Veers, Now that you’re getting it why are you crying at me?

As Loyal said; Veers Tears, Best Tears


I see, accusing me of torture is not a personal attack? Get a grip, dude. And before you scream "well, you did the exact same thing about the bonus rooms," take a deep breath. Accurately cataloging the despicable activities that took place there is not a "personal attack." Properly diagnosing psycopathic and sociopathic behavior is not a "personal attack." Calling out CODE, and others, for engaging in deeply wrongful and abusive activity is part and parcel of being a decent person. Trivializing it, like you are doing, and throwing around the word "torture" for your own amusement, is nothing short of pathetic.

I'm not interested in attention. I am interested in saying my piece against the bad people and the bad things they do. I could care less about the response from the Grrr Veers crows...I'd be more than happy if you folks found another obsession to move on to. Trust me, I have no interest in your incessant whining and nonsense....last I checked you had joined James 315 and were forming an anti-Veers corp, how is that working out for you?

TLDR - #GetAShrink #Moveon #StopoObsessing
Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#13 - 2014-12-04 17:24:50 UTC
Veers, I simply said I believed interaction with you could be described as torture, which for me it is.

First of all there was one recording of the bonus rooms that people are aware of that resulted in banning’s. As for what took place in the other bonus rooms I have no clue. Tell me Veers. Do you have access to those recordings? Are you saying you are privy to CCP materials that the rest of us are not? If you do have access please share them. Until the time I hear those recordings I will not make a judgment based on speculation as you have.

Properly diagnosing psychopathic and sociopathic behavior?? So now you’re a qualified medical doctor as well? I find it amusing you make that diagnosis based on game play. Glad you’re not my doctor.

Once again, if you have no interest in what I have to say Veers, why are you here?
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-12-04 18:17:42 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.



Wow Veers..did i hit a nerve? I have to point out the obvious, if you dont care then why even post?

#VeersNeverGetsTheJoke


I feel the need to set the record straight against your pernicious personal attacks. Pretty lame to make a troll post in C&P about it. If you have a problem with me, come settle it in game. I heard Tornados work well for that. Otherwise, just shut up and move on. The ramblings of the latest CODE plaything are pretty pathetic. With "opponents" like you, no wonder CODE keeps on winning.

Yeah, this thread went right over your head. Ironically its not about you.

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#15 - 2014-12-04 18:35:05 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lame. #GetAShrink

You seem obsessed with me....and yet I could care less about you. It's kind of amusing to see you spinning in the wind spouting your nonsense. From what I understand Loyalanon hit you pretty hard with some real life personal attacks, shattered your self esteem, and since then you haven't been the same.

Keep up your quixotic campaign to get me banned though. Here is a clue, if the scores of CODE petitions didn't get it down, your vapid posting and whining won't either.



Wow Veers..did i hit a nerve? I have to point out the obvious, if you dont care then why even post?

#VeersNeverGetsTheJoke


I feel the need to set the record straight against your pernicious personal attacks. Pretty lame to make a troll post in C&P about it. If you have a problem with me, come settle it in game. I heard Tornados work well for that. Otherwise, just shut up and move on. The ramblings of the latest CODE plaything are pretty pathetic. With "opponents" like you, no wonder CODE keeps on winning.

Yeah, this thread went right over your head. Ironically its not about you.


I see...so his whole campaign being about me means the thread is not about me. Brilliant, Mr. Holmes.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-12-04 18:38:04 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Veers Belvar wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Yeah, this thread went right over your head. Ironically its not about you.


I see...so his whole campaign being about me means the thread is not about me. Brilliant, Mr. Holmes.

WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Btw, In addition to ingame pvp tutoring, I also offer tutoring in forum pvp for the low low price of 2 billion isk per session.

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#17 - 2014-12-04 18:40:22 UTC
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
Veers, I simply said I believed interaction with you could be described as torture, which for me it is.

First of all there was one recording of the bonus rooms that people are aware of that resulted in banning’s. As for what took place in the other bonus rooms I have no clue. Tell me Veers. Do you have access to those recordings? Are you saying you are privy to CCP materials that the rest of us are not? If you do have access please share them. Until the time I hear those recordings I will not make a judgment based on speculation as you have.

Properly diagnosing psychopathic and sociopathic behavior?? So now you’re a qualified medical doctor as well? I find it amusing you make that diagnosis based on game play. Glad you’re not my doctor.

Once again, if you have no interest in what I have to say Veers, why are you here?


Torture is not a subjective emotional state. By no objective measure have I tortured you. In fact, I did my best to avoid any engagement with you. I consider you a troubled figure, a poor AG leader, and one of the main reasons that "the CODE always wins." You sir, are a professional loser. A Napoleon III to their Bismarck, a McLellan to their Lee.

There were multiple recordings of the bonus rooms posted on the minerbumping.com website. Feel free to peruse. Thankfully, judgments are not dependent on you, CCP has already come out strongly against the shameful real life harassment and other repugnant behavior. Unfortunately, CODE continues to defend and endorse such shameful conduct. It is one of the best pieces of evidence that they are little more than a griefer group seeking rage and tears. The whole "Code" is a giant troll that no one actually believes.

You don't need to be a doctor to call a spade a spade. When people derive sick pleasure from inducing rage, tears, humiliation, and profanity, the diagnosis is clear. Ditto for the bonus room garbage. The only tragic part is the deluded fools who continue to defend it.

As for why I respond - you made a thread ABOUT me, of course I will respond. Go make a thread about the weather and I'll be happy to ignore it.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#18 - 2014-12-04 18:41:09 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Yeah, this thread went right over your head. Ironically its not about you.


I see...so his whole campaign being about me means the thread is not about me. Brilliant, Mr. Holmes.

WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Btw, In addition to ingame pvp tutoring, I also offer tutoring in forum pvp for the low low price of 2 billion isk per session.


Good idea...maybe you could offer your services to James 315? His posts do tend to be rather a bore.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-12-04 18:42:13 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Yeah, this thread went right over your head. Ironically its not about you.


I see...so his whole campaign being about me means the thread is not about me. Brilliant, Mr. Holmes.

WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Btw, In addition to ingame pvp tutoring, I also offer tutoring in forum pvp for the low low price of 2 billion isk per session.


Good idea...maybe you could offer your services to James 315? His posts do tend to be rather a bore.

Hes on a blog, its a little different. Also, his good lines each make up for over a thousand bad ones.

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!

Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#20 - 2014-12-04 18:58:02 UTC

Veers, Are you the last person in EVE to get that the “Code Always Wins” is a troll and a good one?? If a tornado destroys your house and you run outside and proclaim it a “personal victory” it doesn’t mean it really is.

Ill refer to something Revis Owen posted on James’ blog I agree with 110%
Revis Owen said

What do you mean by "grow up"? EvE is not real life, where people are expected to act ethically.

It's a game. A game that allows sandcastles to be built and to be kicked over. Therefore, sandcastles will be built and they will be kicked over. In Monopoly, I build up some nice properties only to have them knocked over by someone else. I don't rage about that, but if I did, it seems your view would be that my game opponents need to "grow up" and not do things to me that result in my Monopoly properties getting taken away.

Games are games, not real life. The "growing up" that needs to happen is with those adults who aren't mature enough to handle their properties being taken away in a *game*, whether it is Monopoly or EvE.


As I saw your response, All I can say is you must have been an only child and played Monopoly by yourself, My brother and sister and I played MEAN. I stayed out of the game when my wife and son played it…..they were vicious. Shocked

I await your next insult.Blink
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