Science & Industry

And yet, it IS adding content. It's possible to run a freighter corp that specializes in moving bulk goods at reasonable prices. If you want the lowest possible production costs, be prepared to pay for logistics.

Otherwise, do math on what's profitable to produce. Either way -- content!

Anybody running serious volumes of industry in eve without a macro driven spreadsheet calculating costs is doomed to failure - unless they are build R.A.M or they are getting their minerals for free by mining ;). Okay.. I enjoy building the spreadsheets and calculating costs. However, that does not count as content for other players. It's simply me being a geek.

I ran courier contracts for a long time when I first came to eve, and they can work .. trading time for isk is not a bad option. The cost of running those contracts would have the equivalent profit erosion of simply paying the higher index. If I were paying for logistics that would be part of my cost basis, so your argument is inane.

The balance is likely to shake out at the opportunity cost of moving goods from a hub to a manufacturing base versus the cost of manufacture in that system. Perhaps if CCP made the index change less rapidly it would ease the more bumpy variations in the index and allow manufactures to settle at a point where the additional costs of being close to Jita was worth the reduced time and risk investment.

Anybody running seriously serious volumes of industry in eve with a macro driven spreadsheet is doing it wrong.

I too prefer to settle down in one system to do industry rather than moving around every few weeks. Consider RonPaul Rox's suggestion of using a POS in a stationless system. That's what I did after Crius, I don't regret that. I have a system with a station for research nearby, everything else is done in the POS (mostly manufacturing and invention). The current indexes are at about 2% for manufacturing resp. 2.6% for invention, which is arguably not the best, but still low enough to make a difference.
The carebearium might be useful to find such systems if you think about moving again.

o/

PS: Have to agree with Aineko and SJ Astralana, once you start to mass produce, fumbling with a spreadsheed is no longer an option. If you have the skills, writing reusable code and retrieving the data directly from the API/database dump is better than any spreadsheet...

Learn or pay someone else to write code for you.

Learning to code is a good thing And the basics of what you'd need are pretty simple to pick up.

Holy crap. How many 24 hour jobs per day??

Speaking from experience here, it's possible to drive up the costs massively in a system with under 5 alts, by doing this. Had to move when I alone made the prices spike. And yes, I did check to see if there were other research pos's running in the system. Now I rotate between systems out of necessity. Any serious industrialist will have to move short of anything that is too complicated or unsafe to move, like supercapital production.

This sounds like a good thing to me. It creates a clear choice: You can run a small to moderate operation in one system with less effort, or you can set up a more robust operation that requires more effort.

WTF man