Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ammunition types. Advanced Ammunition, Faction Ammunition , Standard Ammunition, scripts, probes, bombs, etc - they are all a big mess. To illustrate this mess have a look at this random container image (Be aware, it's a bigger image in terms of resolution and mb), which has its content sorted by Type.

You will notice that there are 3 red boxes, encompassing 3 different locations of crystals in the container; 2 yellow boxes very far apart from each other, encompassing Projectile Ammunition; 7 blue boxes for ballistic weapons (Rockets, Missiles, Torps, Cruise Missiles), 3 light green boxes encompassing hybrid ammo, and even 2 magenta boxes for scripts and 2 cyan boxes for launcher ammo.

What is all this mess and separation about? Why are Ammunition types for the same weapon system separated from each other, in part even almost at the opposite end of the container/ammo spectrum? Obviously, there is a separation between T2 ammo and T1 ammo in general. This separation, however, is far from being logical. For instance, the T2 part is started with advanced projectile ammo, yet the T1 part begins with Missiles and Crystals (ignoring cap boosters and bombs as they don't have T2 counter parts), followed by Hybrid ammo and Projectile is near the end. What is this madness?

I therefore suggest, in order to make the Ammunition storage more intuitive and less cluttered/random, to group all Projectile Ammo together and separate inside this sub category between T2, Faction and T1; to group all Laser Ammo together and separate as before, and so on. The result will be a coherent block of Projectile Ammunition, Laser Ammunition, Hybrid Ammunition, Ballistic Weapon Ammunition, Launcher Ammunition, Scripts and Probes.

The same goes for Drones, as you can see in this picture of a random drone container. Here, different kinds of drones are completely randomly (at least to my understanding) mixed together: It starts with Light T2, goes to Medium Faction, Heavy T2, Sentry T1, Sentry T2, again for a different race, Sentry Faction, back to Heavy Faction, back to Sentry T2, mix in a Gecko Heavy, then Medium T2, Light T2, mix in another races Light T2, and so on. There's no pattern whatsoever.

This also needs to be sorted by either class (Sentry, Heavy, Medium, Light, Utility Heavy/Medium/Light) or by Race and then type (All Amarr drones in one block, all Gallente in one block, and so on). At least something that resembles a pattern and that makes navigation and finding things easier without having to rely on filters or the search box.

As said, the container is sorted by Type. Details view and List view require even more scrolling. And constantly having to use the search box or setting up filters is bothersome to me at least, as filters apply to all my hangar windows. That's undesirable for me at least because I have a window for my item hangar, ship hangar and ship cargo bay; having to juggle around with filters all the time is not really "trivial" anymore.

I also manually fit ships where ever necessary as I cannot fit ships with items inside a container, and therefore I have to fill the cargo bays manually with ammo. This is tiresome especially in the case of projectiles as I have to either scroll through the entire container or use the search box. This should be easier than that.

I can assure you it is sorted by Type and I don't see a difference between Icon, Details and List view. Honestly, for me there is no point in sorting by name or quantity as they would make the mess even worse.

Right click -> Sort by - Type or Type (reversed)

Agree.

It just makes sense to allow us to move the item hangar and ship hangars above eachother. I want to be able to see my item hangar above my list of fitted ships.

It just makes sense to allow us to create / open an ammunition sub hangar, drone sub hangar and script/charges sub hanger, ores and minerals sub hangar etc. Then the file tree system can be used rather than having to bother with a filter system (which can remain for those that prefer it).

The common groupings.

Why, just coz. The world is full of lazy people.

Ok so I checked. Mine is sorted by category/group. It then sub sorts by name.

So 'Combat drones' is the grouping and its subsorted from acolytes to wardens.

Ammo is $weapon_type and Advanced $weapon_type

I find it fairly intuitive and tidy. Different minds maybe.

How is it random? Perhaps in the sense that salvage and combat drones are miles apart but...I'd expect them to be.

Perhaps it is just what I'm used to and/or how our respective minds work - I mean no slight by this.

But it's in two places - regular and 'advanced' (T2). It's sorted alphabetically from there for me.