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@ CCP, why do you have rules that you refuse to enforce?
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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#221 - 2011-12-16 02:45:06 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
If you think what I am doing is crying on the forums and you respond to it, you are a right honorable tool.

CCP actually does have rules about name-calling on the forums. It's interesting that you're so willing to break that rule while whining about them not enforcing some rule that only exists in your imagination.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#222 - 2011-12-16 03:00:17 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
If you think what I am doing is crying on the forums and you respond to it, you are a right honorable tool.

CCP actually does have rules about name-calling on the forums. It's interesting that you're so willing to break that rule while whining about them not enforcing some rule that only exists in your imagination.


If you feel that posts violates anything at all please report it.

Quote:
Grief play
What is grief play?
Griefing
A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making others’ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.

This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars. The EVE universe is a harsh universe largely driven by such conflict and notice must be taken of the fact that nonconsensual combat alone is not considered to be grief play per the above definition.

An example of grief play would be the so called "Can baiting" in starter systems. An experienced player drops a cargo container with some items in front of a station in a starter system and waits for a new player to take from it. The new player is flagged and promptly attacked and killed by the owner of the container. Doing the same in starter tutorial complexes is also considered grief play and will not be tolerated.


Clearly my imagination.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#223 - 2011-12-16 03:13:03 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Clearly my imagination.
Since the many things that are supposed to be griefing aren't even listed, and seeing as how they always add that extra bit about regular gameplay… yes.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#224 - 2011-12-16 03:13:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
CCP wrote:


This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars. The EVE universe is a harsh universe largely driven by such conflict and notice must be taken of the fact that nonconsensual combat alone is not considered to be grief play per the above definition.

An example of grief play would be the so called "Can baiting" in starter systems. An experienced player drops a cargo container with some items in front of a station in a starter system and waits for a new player to take from it. The new player is flagged and promptly attacked and killed by the owner of the container. Doing the same in starter tutorial complexes is also considered grief play and will not be tolerated.



Bolded the griefing parts.

Underlined the parts that explain what your complaining about.

Solution, obviously Cipher, you need to move out of a starter system, you coward. Warp to a gate, click on the 'Jump' button, and VOILA! the game just got massive.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#225 - 2011-12-16 06:46:34 UTC
protip: the griefing rule explicitly does not ban griefing

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#226 - 2011-12-16 06:47:11 UTC
instead griefing merely places you into a category of people ccp may deal with as it sees fit

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#227 - 2011-12-16 08:34:15 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Clearly my imagination.

Considering that there is nothing in the text you quoted that even mentions suicide ganking I can't imagine why else you think there is a rule against it other than hallucinations or an overactive imagination.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Jita Alt666
#228 - 2011-12-16 08:42:45 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
instead griefing merely places you into a category of people ccp may deal with as it sees fit


Or as CCP say it:
Quote:
At our discretion


What Cipher fails to understand is that when CCP use their discretion to allow something - it is no longer against CCP rules.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#229 - 2011-12-16 08:48:13 UTC
None of that even matters, however, because suicide ganking is not griefing.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#230 - 2011-12-16 08:52:11 UTC
I just posted in oxymoron-thread by Cipher Jones.

*fanfare*

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#231 - 2011-12-16 11:33:16 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:

Anyone here sky dives or flies planes or gliders?





I kind of wish right about now your character would sky dive from a plane and hit a glider (ingame) for your terrible poasting in this and other threads.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Freezehunter
#232 - 2011-12-16 11:35:58 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:

Anyone here sky dives or flies planes or gliders?





I kind of wish right about now your character would sky dive from a plane and hit a glider (ingame) for your terrible poasting in this and other threads.


Yeah dude, because your posting is definitely more high quality than mine.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#233 - 2011-12-16 11:37:41 UTC
Sad to see this is a Cipher thread.. I thought you where better then this.

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Prince Kobol
#234 - 2011-12-16 11:42:15 UTC
I curious why the OP feels that griefing has now now a huge problem
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#235 - 2011-12-16 11:49:48 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
i can tell you with 100% accuracy what the result of each and every griefing petition will be

i, however, am not a bleeting sheep seeking vainly to find some way to make it against the rules for me to be sheered killed and devoured


Who the F eats sheep anymore?

Sheep meat is stringy, salty and BLEH...


No, it's juicy, sweet and delicious. Maybe stop eating roadkill?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Freezehunter
#236 - 2011-12-16 11:52:59 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
i can tell you with 100% accuracy what the result of each and every griefing petition will be

i, however, am not a bleeting sheep seeking vainly to find some way to make it against the rules for me to be sheered killed and devoured


Who the F eats sheep anymore?

Sheep meat is stringy, salty and BLEH...


No, it's juicy, sweet and delicious. Maybe stop eating roadkill?


That's lamb, genius.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#237 - 2011-12-16 11:57:47 UTC
Good grief.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#238 - 2011-12-16 12:12:28 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:

Anyone here sky dives or flies planes or gliders?





I kind of wish right about now your character would sky dive from a plane and hit a glider (ingame) for your terrible poasting in this and other threads.


Yeah dude, because your posting is definitely more high quality than mine.



No, it's just that your posting makes you appear heavily ********, whereas mine makes me appear merely lightly ********.

Your posting in that other thread about how your PhD in Psychology (lol pseudoscience) elevates you above the rest of the population ('cattle') is one of the largest breadcrumbs on the trail towards dumbassedness I've ever seen on these forums (and I've seen quite a few in my time). Based on those comments you made alone, people would be well advised to take what you say with a salt mine.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Freezehunter
#239 - 2011-12-16 12:24:44 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:

Anyone here sky dives or flies planes or gliders?





I kind of wish right about now your character would sky dive from a plane and hit a glider (ingame) for your terrible poasting in this and other threads.


Yeah dude, because your posting is definitely more high quality than mine.



No, it's just that your posting makes you appear heavily ********, whereas mine makes me appear merely lightly ********.

Your posting in that other thread about how your PhD in Psychology (lol pseudoscience) elevates you above the rest of the population ('cattle') is one of the largest breadcrumbs on the trail towards dumbassedness I've ever seen on these forums (and I've seen quite a few in my time). Based on those comments you made alone, people would be well advised to take what you say with a salt mine.



Chillax bro, you just got trolled by a guy that's been trolling MMOS since 1997, that is all...

Why are you so mad?

Jeez, as if I am the only troll here.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#240 - 2011-12-16 13:01:02 UTC
Ah, yes, the "super troll" card. I was wondering when that was going to be whipped out Lol

You are certainly not the only troll here, but you are by far the worst.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log