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How is the performance compared to windows?
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Us3r Z3r0
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-09-27 19:18:03 UTC
Any one compared the performance of windows and linux for eve? I'm going to be reinstalling at least a dual boot this weekend and was wondering if I should bother with Eve on linux or just on windows?
Thanks


My PC set up is as follows
i5 3.2gig Haswell 8 GB ram(Will be upgrading to 16GB soon) Nvidia GTX 760 2GB
The performance is amazing under windows but I'm mostly curious if it will be close to as good in Linux
Kopfy
#2 - 2014-09-28 11:58:10 UTC
With your specs I'd say the difference is minimal. As long as EVE voice or Captains Quarters isn't a must you can skip windows.

I don't have any numbers but I think the difference for me when I was still using a gt9600 was around 5 fps. With a GTX 680 I can't tell the difference.

Others here might have actual numbers.
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#3 - 2014-09-28 19:54:21 UTC
Us3r Z3r0 wrote:
Any one compared the performance of windows and linux for eve? I'm going to be reinstalling at least a dual boot this weekend and was wondering if I should bother with Eve on linux or just on windows?
Thanks


My PC set up is as follows
i5 3.2gig Haswell 8 GB ram(Will be upgrading to 16GB soon) Nvidia GTX 760 2GB
The performance is amazing under windows but I'm mostly curious if it will be close to as good in Linux


on nVidia About ~80% of what you get on Windows.
on AMD About ~60% of what you get on Windows.

Though YMMV.

[url=https://github.com/CommanderAlchemy/.bin/blob/master/eve] EVE - Online Launcher [Linux] [/url] Installs, launches character prefixes (both SISI & Tranquility). Simplescreenrecorder shm inject
Valencia Mariana
Shadow Legion X
#4 - 2014-12-03 17:52:01 UTC
COMM4NDER wrote:
Us3r Z3r0 wrote:
Any one compared the performance of windows and linux for eve? I'm going to be reinstalling at least a dual boot this weekend and was wondering if I should bother with Eve on linux or just on windows?
Thanks


My PC set up is as follows
i5 3.2gig Haswell 8 GB ram(Will be upgrading to 16GB soon) Nvidia GTX 760 2GB
The performance is amazing under windows but I'm mostly curious if it will be close to as good in Linux


on nVidia About ~80% of what you get on Windows.
on AMD About ~60% of what you get on Windows.

Though YMMV.


Are those numbers based on your perception? Only asking as I almost have native performance under Linux Mint with nvidia.

Valencia Mariana The Red Circle Inc.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#5 - 2015-02-22 21:01:58 UTC
Wine is going to make EVE very CPU-bound. About the only thing you can do to change that right now is play with RadeonSI + Gallium Nine+the Wine fork meant to use it.

My build:
AMD Phenom II X6
GTX 770

Native Windows rarely drops below 85 FPS (vsync capped) in both DX9 and DX11 modes.
Wine 1.7.36 struggles to keep above 25.

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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#6 - 2015-02-23 01:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: COMM4NDER
Valencia Mariana wrote:
COMM4NDER wrote:
Us3r Z3r0 wrote:
Any one compared the performance of windows and linux for eve? I'm going to be reinstalling at least a dual boot this weekend and was wondering if I should bother with Eve on linux or just on windows?
Thanks


My PC set up is as follows
i5 3.2gig Haswell 8 GB ram(Will be upgrading to 16GB soon) Nvidia GTX 760 2GB
The performance is amazing under windows but I'm mostly curious if it will be close to as good in Linux


on nVidia About ~80% of what you get on Windows.
on AMD About ~60% of what you get on Windows.

Though YMMV.


Are those numbers based on your perception? Only asking as I almost have native performance under Linux Mint with nvidia.


Those are taken from Stefan Dösingers slides, but that is more or less what you get. Was getting somewhat similar numbers from my benchmarks on EVE (Linux vs Windows) Though i dont have the values anymore (was 2013-10-14) but i have some benchmarks though only Wine since I havent bothered to install Windows on my pc yet.


2014-02-15
AMD 8350 @ 5GHz
nVidia GTX 670 @ 334.16

2015-02-23
AMD 9590 @ 5GHz
nVidia GTX 970 @ 346.35

And eve probe
fleet1 117.0
fleet2 24.0
fleet3 50.0
asteroid_rocks 189.0
buildEffect 127.0
controltower 0.0 (no idea why it shows 0)
festivallaunchers 36.0

[url=https://github.com/CommanderAlchemy/.bin/blob/master/eve] EVE - Online Launcher [Linux] [/url] Installs, launches character prefixes (both SISI & Tranquility). Simplescreenrecorder shm inject
Sacruto
Orwell Incorporated
#7 - 2015-03-24 11:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sacruto
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Wine is going to make EVE very CPU-bound. About the only thing you can do to change that right now is play with RadeonSI + Gallium Nine+the Wine fork meant to use it.

My build:
AMD Phenom II X6
GTX 770

Native Windows rarely drops below 85 FPS (vsync capped) in both DX9 and DX11 modes.
Wine 1.7.36 struggles to keep above 25.


Say what What?

Running WIne 1.7.3.8, two clients both on about 60-80fps when out of station and both well above 100fps inside station. Two clients open at the same time that is. All settings on high except AA which is on medium.

i5 3570 @ 4.2Ghz
16GB RAM
AMD HD7950

HDR not enabled and of course Catalyst AI disabled.
Jenny Starwolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-04-12 08:36:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenny Starwolf
I have an AMD fx-4300 with an Nvidia GTX 650.
I run 2 clients at 55-60fps in space, 3 at 30-45. On windows, running 2 drops me to about 45 and 3 dips below 15 most of the time.
In my experiance, if you have WINE 1.7.35 or higher, the latest nvidia driver (currently 347.47), run the game in a 64bit WINE prefix, just install d3dx9_36, vcrun2010 and winhttp(for launcher) and you're set. You'll likely have anywhere from 85-110% win7 performance, depending on how many clients you run, the more you run the better it performance overall (afterall, Linux is build for multitasking). But even with a single client I get about 95% performance on WINE, which still puts me well over 65fps on max settings.

With the introduction of OBS-Studio (linux version of obs) it's actually more efficient to record/stream your game on linux now aswell.

System specs:
CPU - AMD FX 4300
GPU - NVIDIA 650GTX
RAM - 16GB Corsair non-ecc 1667
MB: ASRock 660-le gt
OS: Fedora 21(Kernel ver 3.19.3-200)
GPU Driver: NVidia Proprietary ver 347.47
WINE ver: 1.7.39 (staging)

Note: I've used the non-staging version of 1.7.38 and there was no performance change between that and the staging version, the staging version is what comes in the Fedora repo, and I got tired of having to patch it all myself when i don't really have to.

Also, if you setup pulseaudio correctly with WINE, you can use eve voice chat aswell (I do all the time). The main problem is actually getting WINE to have access to your mic, once that's done, you're golden.

As far as the capt. quarters, entering them will insta-crash your client, but really, who uses them anyways? lol
Jenny Starwolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-04-12 08:37:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenny Starwolf
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Wine is going to make EVE very CPU-bound. About the only thing you can do to change that right now is play with RadeonSI + Gallium Nine+the Wine fork meant to use it.

My build:
AMD Phenom II X6
GTX 770

Native Windows rarely drops below 85 FPS (vsync capped) in both DX9 and DX11 modes.
Wine 1.7.36 struggles to keep above 25.

Something is wrong with your wine setup or your drivers.
Using wine 1.7.36 I was getting the same as I am now in 1.7.39, and I'm pulling 75-80fps with a single client in WINE.(using Nvidia 650GTX driver ver. 347.46)

Also, that single client only takes 22% of my CPU (AMD FX-4300, far from top of the line)
Roesjka
The Last Solution Inc
#10 - 2015-04-15 20:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Roesjka
Notebook Lenovo y50-70, i7-4710HQ, 16GB ram, Nvidia GTX860M,
Debian jessie 64bits, wine-staging 1.7.40~jessie .

Desktop Asrock 990FX Extreme4, AMD FX-8320, 16GB ram,
2x AMD HD 7870 crossfire, Debian jessie 64bits, wine-staging 1.7.40~jessie.

On my notebook under Windows 7 or Debian jessie fps is capped at 60. If I use the vblank_mode=0 I get higher fps.
I'll have to comeback as I am running under win7 now.

EDIT
Ok under Debian with vblank_mode=0 , I get between 90 to 120 fps. Without is as I said capped at 60 fps which is more than enough considering your screen runs at 60Hz so no need for more fps.

cheers.

Cheers,

Retired UNIX/Linux IT Specialist.

AsRock 990FX Extreme4, FX-8320, 16GB mem, GTX 1070

y50-70, i7, 16GB mem, GTX 860M

Both running Debian stretch 64bit
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#11 - 2015-04-20 12:44:31 UTC
I run between 2-4 accounts at once on 2 monitors. I notice very little difference between windows and linux/wine. Its probably in the 5% to 10% range tops i would guess. I only have problems with the in game browser.

I have a Thinkpad laptop 8 core with 16G ram and some Nvidia card... I run slackware and compiled wine on the machine.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Jenny Starwolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-04-22 10:31:58 UTC
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
I run between 2-4 accounts at once on 2 monitors. I notice very little difference between windows and linux/wine. Its probably in the 5% to 10% range tops i would guess. I only have problems with the in game browser.

I have a Thinkpad laptop 8 core with 16G ram and some Nvidia card... I run slackware and compiled wine on the machine.

You can solve most browser issues by using winetricks to install winhttp

in terminal:
wget http://winetricks.org/winetricks
chmod +x winetricks
./winetricks winhttp

Restart Eve and browser should work.