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How about this: remove the clone mechanics, but, to make death actually MEANINGFUL, when you get podded, you are back in hisec.

This idea will be loved by all the lowsec pirates...all that traffic they'd be getting...

As a new player I like the thrill of losing skill points. It's actually one of the most interesting and discussed features whenever I talk to somebody curious about EVE.

While I understand the points made in the post, I can not deny disappointment in the complete removal of death penalties ( beside losing your ship that is ), getting podded for a veteran means basically nothing, since they are capable to jump back in a brand new T2 ship as soon as they are cloned, and trying to escape in your pod is a lot less tense now.

What I would personally like to see is a temporary post death penalty, which increments based on how long you have been alive. I like the idea of a beaten up player waiting to be able to pilot his T2 again and get revenge, or a group of pirates trying to corner a penalized player even more ( I know that sounds negative, but ganking in World of Warcraft was actually what sparkled most of the player interaction, and yes I mentioned WOW on EVE forums ).

That said I am sure you will come up with something interesting, but I wish you would have pushed a more flashed out death mechanic for this patch.

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Would it be possible to see the numbers that have brought to this design decision? Stuff like how many people get podded for example?

Not very likely.

I suspect that most of the players here will say that if you are not using some set of implants in battle, then you are doing it wrong.

Counterpoint: keep pod deaths (other than implants) worthless so people won't target pods in fleet fights and make pilots wait for 20 minutes in 10% tidi for their self destruct timer to finish.

Yes a well-chosen set of cheaper implants for combat is wise for most toons.

Implant value is often a lot less than during "safe" training times. Combat skill implants are cheap at the low end and not very cost effective or significant at the upper end. Same for fitting implants except what you are required to have is driven by your fit and/or lack of skills. Capital pilots are a frequent exception to the absolute cost of implants in combat of course.

But overall I suspect that when expecting combat only the filthy rich players equip implants worth more than their ship. That probably applies to most capital pilots too.


Bottom-line: lots of players may run around in "safe" space with a full set of +5 attribute implants or insane mining boost implants. But in potential combat situations very few veterans have that level of ISK in their head-pod. Veterans are usually pretty good at judging when those rules apply. If they fly around with huge sums in their head under all conditions then they are probably insanely rich or on PLEX to ISK as needed and those folk do not care about th implant loss issue.

i always felt it would be a good idea to put the pod in focus when you redesign clones.

- fittable like a ship where the only allowed modules would be implants interfacing between you and the pod (reuses fitting screen)
- drugs would work like temporary modules and would be also displayed in their slots.
- clonejumps between pods in stations should not cause a huge cooldown, instead, the cooldown should be jump distance dependent.
- jumpclones would be pods and would display in your assets list as if it would be a ship

once you have a cool ingame representation of the pod you can improve on it with custom pods etc etc. "Golden pod" would be an actual pod type, not a strange implant.

a pod would come with a clone of course. Its just about how you represent it in the game.

not needed. we already have 24h cooldown. all i am saying is that you get less cooldown when the distance is shorter

I have a strong feeling that this is sort of the route that CCP wants to take from everything they have said over the past few weeks about clones.

We will probably have to fit our capsules with 'hardwires' instead of the actual clone here in the near future. Which would also allow rapid 'refitting' of implants depending whats needed for whatever ship you are flying and negating the need of jump clones for swapping out implants.

I can't remember exactly where I saw or read it but I could have swore I saw a dev say something like this "Flying an empty clone might soon be like flying an unfitted ship." If that's true, fitting capsules seems like it could be very plausible.

I crap 100,000 ISK

Im actually writing this as a character whos going to be biomassed in couple of hours.

For me paying the clone upgrade has never been issue when being podded, but it has been nasty 'must remember' issue.
Today one alt got podded and lost 100M implants and 150M ship, thats part of the game and the risk.

I really do welcome the removal of 'must remember'.

Someone mentioned the reusability of implants and it got me thinking and I realized, I have never been much to Impants, other than +3 and +4 training 'boosters'...

Personally I would get excited if impants could be plugged in and and removed.

Thoughts:
1. If EVE engineers are so clever that they can clone ppl, they can not remove implants...
2. What kind of effect would it actually have on implant market (ccp could probably simulate it?)
3. Would it make a new exciting decision making process to prepare for battle, when deciding which implants to take to battle?
4. New profession: Implant hauler - head full of expensive implants delivered to remote location.
5. Collecting implants on your station, for different purpose, nice?
6. Would you buy more implants then?

All this comes from solo-player, so I probably dont think it wide enough. Im actually in process of biomassing 2 characters (used for tradehubs). Closing 2 subscriptions and selling 5 characters. Leaving only my main and one trader. im most likely terminating 3 jump-clones from my main leaving only one with maxed training implants somewhere in hi-sec for holidays.

All this to make the experience 'being there' stronger, I have missed that with all jump-clones and alts and their jump-clones.

-Rick (r.i.p.)