Ships & Modules

so.. battleshipes...

You could fit this all before, the tricky part was getting the 50 CPU for the drone link to apply sentry's up to 80km.

Btw, people still doing the 100mn to drop transversal in L4 like with the old arti fittings instead of just using a fitting that can track stuff properly?

Trust me I have seen a lot people ABing all over the place making her BS hit somehow, while refusing to fit up a proper number of tracking and damage mods to get around a problem that doesn't really become one with this mods on the ship. In the standard L4 scenario npcs will fly in a straight line from her spawning point to your position, giving you the opportunity to apply the dps rather well and avoiding the problem if you take down the ships that you will have issues to track later on. If you now use mobility to reduce transversal to one of them, you at the same time mostly increase it towards the other targets, what again needs adjustments after you are done with the target, and costs you in many cases more time than you will by the better applied damage. Overall if you compare the Kronos(Rails) to the Pala(Tachs) in this situations, the pala with the same tracking suffers a lot less from it, because it can apply far better dps in the situations while it hits good, what for the most part is enough to nearly compleetly avoid situations where it doesn't.

If you have missions where npcs are so close that you can't do this properly, a short range fitting with lasers or acs would be the proper solution or using like you the Kronos, that can cover the 1-15km area by the web and only got the 16-25km area where it considerably loses dps in a normal fitting(2 TCs).

Don't get me wrong, I don't bash using range and transversal control to make stuff work just for the sake of it. It is just the point that most people start off with a rather bad solution for a problem, than do anything they can to solve it and still end up with a rather dissatisfying result.

Technically, what rails lack in pve is quite a bit tracking in combination with a rather mobile hull to dedicate range/transversal or being backed up by sentrys, like on the domi/kronos(that should rather have 5 sentry's + some room for anti frig drones) to archive a reasonable good baseline damage as well as applied dps at medium ranges. With a combination of this you would archive a similar good result like with other solutions. It doesn't matter so much if you have a little bit less on paper dps if the damage application still is good enough to create a comparable result, similar as acs/puls where the higher tracking combined with the high range makes the the preferred option compared to long range guns.

While it doesn't matter if you nerf anything around hybrids in eve or buff up hybrids to a satisfying state, the later option would be probably more enjoyable for many people and even easier to accomplish from a balancing pov, since you need to tweak far less.

Well I did write down a lot about blasters over the years. In the end it comes down to blasters suck at close range pvp, rather than sucking compared to puls with scorch. Also weapons shouldn't be looked at separately, you always will have them on a ship, geared to do one thing pretty good in a trade off for being less appealing for other stuff. Was a Abaddon the better gang ship with the more balanced EHP/DPS than the general mega? Sure. Was the mega more suitable to go out solo/small gang to hunt and kill some people than the slow ass Abaddon or snipe at 200km? Yes. You see everything has(or at least should have) stuff where it makes sense and becomes a preferable solution. What you have now is basically blaster ships being unpractical in typical solo/small gang pvp at point blank, or at least less practical than minmatar that also offer the neuts, more range, selectable damage types and speed. Sure you could start a debate about how useful is a particular role, but technically it would be more important to look at it once it actually works well in his role and then draw a better conclusion.

Actually blaster ships where a lot better during the nano age then they are now, because they actually where pretty effective at her thing. Getting in range was harder, but targets where also easier to kill once you where there(no extender rigs, low dps on nano setups by occupied lows with speed stuff etc.) what made blaster ships pretty nice, at least for me back then. Also you had a lot more solo ships around, that trusted in her nano fu and where more than willing to start a fight with a lonely blaster ship, what was overall very enjoyable since the outcome was mostly depended around the player skill and the kitting game, if you get close you will win this if you can't you will lose, no questions asked and no strings attached.

The nano nerf is actually a rather bad example, since it broke just as much as it fixed(roles for cruisers\HAC, blasters, bs in solo/small gang environments etc.). This overall eve adjustments, while necessary at some points always tend to leave a lot wreckage of ships that become meh behind, so I for my self would rather avoid it and stick to fixing stuff what is still broken by this 3 years old changes.

I never was for upping blasters to ac/puls ranges. Again the problem mostly is that blasters don't work in her limited niche, or at least not well enough to be the preferred option here. However since you agree that blasters shouldn't be like every other weapon good at medium range, you might get the drift about improving rails at medium range combat, making them working in bigger gang situations at medium range, similar to pve, the main issue here is tracking since you play here against the short range turrets of the other races.



A shotgun is a fairly inaccurate weapon, the blaster(at least in his working days) not so much. Not only by fielding the better baseline dps(compared to puls not really a advantage) but focusing her game play around the much higher damage application in real game play. This was one thing that CCP basically turned upside down with the nano nerf making everything a lot slower(therefore easier to hit at medium range) and reducing web effects plus introducing scrams, what costs blaster ships around 2000% tracking compared to the old days(assuming sig bloom and 90% webs). A blaster ship wasn't good by having 10% more dps but by relay able forcing targets in situations where you could apply peak dps with them, making it more a 50-100% damage advantage when you compared what a puls ship could do against a nano hac at 20km or a blaster ship at 5km.

The perception that blasters do melt targets came not from a myth, but a general combination of game mechanics and typical blaster pvp game play/fitting. Technically you could nerf the other weapons a lot and blasters still wouldn't archive a similar effect that made them a attractive choice for some situations/play styles.