EVE General Discussion

I can't break the tank with my lazers on guristas and angels ships, what should I do?
Should I wait another year to train gunnery skills to lvl 5?
Train another race?

I don't have money to change BSs each time I want to do missions, just like I don't have skills to put some uber gank so every rat will pop up in a sight.
Why my friend that started 2 month after me can kill every rat with hes Mega/Domi and I can't with my Apoc? Yes, I don't have enough skills to fly Abaddon.

Why no one told me at the beginning amarr can't change damage type at all and others can or don't need it?
And the last thing, why every race can do missions with low SP and Amarr can't?

My friend does missins MUCH better then me. He's able to do any of them within a short period of time.
He is 2 mil SP lower then me. He has much cheaper mods then mine and still he's better.
I'm a total newb at pvp and pve. I just had no idea that lasers do one type of a damage.

Right now I can't break tank on missions like Duo of death and angel extravaganza's last boss. There was another 2 missions which i couldn't do, just can't remember the names.

There is something wrong about lazers and balancing at all.

Google "Eve Mission damage types" look for rats that are weak against your lasers. Figure out which agents give you those missions (It shouldn't be hard, the missions vary primarily by faction, and CCP isn't entirely stupid). Run missions designed with your ship in mind and see what happens. (FYI, Angel rats have a HUGE EM/Therm resist)


As for the damage type surprise; I assume you are literate (You can type in real words, so at least more literate than most here). During the tutorials, you were introduced to ammunition (Assuming you're not using civilian guns on your Battleship). At that time it was Your responsibility to learn the mechanics of the game you are playing, and had you done that, you would have realized you needed to be OK shooting only EM/Therm from lasers. You didn't do that. And now you're fighting Angels with Lasers.

Square Peg !> Round Hole. Go find the Square Hole.

My Amarr agent gives me those missions in amarr space.
From time to time I get guristas and angels, like extravaganza.
When I get them I have nothing else to do but to cancel them.

Day ago i cancelled extravaganza, after that agent offered me to do duo of death with guristas.
After that i had to wait 4 hrs to cancel it again :(
If if that stupid 4hrs waiting didn;t make me mad I wound't have posted here.

When I was new, I couldn't understand why my blasters fell short of the nearest targets while my railguns wouldn't track anything that had had more than 5 seconds to approach me. I was convinced that Gallente was severely underpowered. (I also couldn't use drones at the time) The point is, every weapons system has a major drawback or two. Lasers can't change damage types very much. Blasters have terrible range. Railguns still don't have a niche. Drones are often slow and can be shot down pretty easily. Missiles take time to reach their target, and no missile boats can fit up a full rack (except the kestrel). Autocannons have poor dps, and artillery has terrible dps. You have to look at the good things your weapons can provide for you.

If you're missioning in laser ships, you should be declining missions that pit you against angel cartel or guristas. Actually you should still be able to fight angel cartel I would think. Just use your lasers to knock out their shields and have minmatar drones finish them off. But you can also look for mission hubs that have 2 agents of the same level at the same base, so that if you get 2 bad missions from one, you have the other as a fallback option. I do that so I can avoid shooting at other highsec factions.

And seriously, try using autocannons, blasters, or rails on your laser ship. Sure, you won't get your lovely damage or capacitor bonus, but you don't really need that to win missions. If you have the tank and a little bit of patience, all you need beyond that is the right damage type and a big enough ship for the mission. An abaddon with autocannons can most assuredly take out level 4 angel cartel battleships. I used to fit autocannons on my vexor back when I couldn't yet fly any minmatar ships. I was doing alright in level 2 missions against serpentis, even though I didn't have medium drones and couldn't launch more than 3 small ones. I found out later it was a whole lot easier to do those missions in a cormorant. Point is, I've flown all the races and I can tell you none of them are underpowered. You just have to find what you're good at and avoid what you aren't. Failing that, don't be afraid to cross-train or cross-fit.

Good post.
But there is a thing:
Amarr beam lasers actually do more damage, in order to have that good damage you have to mount Tach IIs. But the coolest thing that you can't mount it on ANY Amarr ship except Nightmare without using Reactor Control Unit or PG Rig.
Other races can mount their heaviest weapons without it. Mael can fit 1400 arties without a problem, Mega can do that too with rails, but Abaddon can't mount Tach IIs at all.
Using the reactor kills one Low. Also Abaddon can't evem mount Mega Beam IIs too if you want to use at least one repper.
Even Paladin can't mount Tach IIs effectively.

That's another problem I have noticed. I don't understand why CCP would design a system where the largest weapons are too big for the largest ships to fit, even if said ships aren't spending the powergrid on anything else. Only since the powergrid reduction of Crucible are the Megathron, Hyperion, and Rokh able to fit the largest railguns without a powergrid bonus. The Abaddon has as much powergrid as the Maelstrom, however artillery takes significantly less powergrid than beam lasers. I just recently fit up a maelstrom with autocannons and a fat X-Large shield booster. It has literally gobs of remaining CPU and powergrid that I don't have a clue what to do with. If there were X-Large shield extenders in the game costing 3000 powergrid and granting 7500 shield strength, I would most certainly put one on the maelstrom, and would be none the worse for wear because of it.

So I think the Abaddon should have its powergrid increased 5% and the Maelstrom should have its powergrid decreased by 5% at least. Not too much though, artillery takes a LOT of powergrid. And I have already petitioned for increasing the powergrid of the Rokh and Thorax by as much as 20% but I already got my wish there =)

You get around 1000 dps out of your Long Range weapons system, and you're complaining that you need some fitting slots to do it? What the hell? And if you're running missions, T2 Laser ammo isn't helpful, so use Faction Multi on it (even helps those tracking issues you have).
With a fit hat costs around 500 mil, I can get an Abaddon fit with T2 Tachs with cap to spare dealing 800dps with 2 tracking computers on normal multifreq. But for tachs you really should use Faction guns and faction ammo. They're easier on the cap boosters and the fitting. (Includes a LAR and 2 spare lows for resists)

If you want a race that needed buffing, look at Minmatar before the Projectile weapon buff, or look at Gallente before the Hybrid buff, but not Amarr.

you are complaining about your lasers but are not listening to reason. i dont know how much SPs you have but a friend of mine flies amarr exclusivly he is crosstrained as he is gallente from origin and he has only 19m SPs and he runs L4s with great ease also angel extravaganza and yes he uses lasers only.

make an eveboard page and let us see your sheet till then i dsay amarr is fine have a nice day

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