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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#81 - 2014-11-28 22:36:29 UTC
well, that was.... interesting. How did you manage to con CONCORD into terminating her clone contract? because if you have those kind of strings to pull I could think of better, higher profile, people you could have done that to instead of a capusleer of exactly no renown....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Astera Zandraki
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2014-11-29 00:12:55 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
You're all monsters. This universe is full of monsters.


Really, Cos? So dramatic.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#83 - 2014-11-29 00:42:57 UTC
Astera Zandraki wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
You're all monsters. This universe is full of monsters.


Really, Cos? So dramatic.

Lets face it, though, she's got a point.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#84 - 2014-11-29 02:45:33 UTC
Astera Zandraki wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
You're all monsters. This universe is full of monsters.


Really, Cos? So dramatic.


I'm dramatic? What the hell does that make the original post then? Or all the people talking about the best ways to torture and execute people?

**** you.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#85 - 2014-11-29 16:38:36 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

Idiot. You can't repay suffering. Anything you extract is never enough, because it is not the target of your anger that needs to change but you. All you do is create more like you on the other side with each atrocity begetting an answering atrocity until either one group of you is dead or someone with vision and courage ends the cycle.



Not that I approve of the OP's methods but, your moralizing strikes me as extremely disingenuous as someone deployed as a paid mercenary in service to the 24IC. How can you claim any sort of moral superiority when you're allied with the slavers Pilot Tuulinen?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#86 - 2014-11-29 17:01:41 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

Idiot. You can't repay suffering. Anything you extract is never enough, because it is not the target of your anger that needs to change but you. All you do is create more like you on the other side with each atrocity begetting an answering atrocity until either one group of you is dead or someone with vision and courage ends the cycle.



Not that I approve of the OP's methods but, your moralizing strikes me as extremely disingenuous as someone deployed as a paid mercenary in service to the 24IC. How can you claim any sort of moral superiority when you're allied with the slavers Pilot Tuulinen?


Where in the above am I moralising, Ms Rella? You act like the achievement of a cause depends on the moral purity of the person pursuing it - complete monsters have causes. Heth had a cause. The advice, above, might sound like a sermon, from a certain perspective, but it is nothing more than pragmatic advice.

The truth is that Mens Reppola ended my holy crusade against the Gallente. I may not have been the person of courage and vision needed to end the cycle, in that case, but at least I was man enough not to cling to my hate for reasons of perpetuation of my self-identity.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#87 - 2014-11-29 17:30:27 UTC
Phanca Zanjoahir has been avenged.

Hours ago, 10,000 filthy Minmatar subhuman slaves were acquired from Ammatar Mandate slave markets, flown to the Lisudeh system, packed into Sigil-class Industrials, and incinerated by the holy light of Amarrian pulse lasers. Any slaves who survived in the wreckage were incinerated a second time.

Then, I ordered an across-the-board flogging and mauling (by slaver hounds) of my standing (and again, all-Minmatar) slave population. 2,247 did not survive the ordeal.

Finally, 100 Minmatar slaves were brought aboard my Ashimmu-class SS Bloodletter, strapped to the altar of God, and with perfectly executed splatter cuts made an offering to the Red God. The remains of these slaves and those who died in the flogging and mauling were flown into Mehatoor deep space and incinerated.

As is typical for my slave sacrifices, these destructions can be verified in the usual places. And now, Saint and martyr to God Phanca Zanjoahir may look down from her place among the blood-splattered golden towers of Paradise upon these 12,347 slaves sacrificed unto her name and condemned to Hell and delight eternally in their destruction. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#88 - 2014-11-29 19:08:19 UTC
Called it. Well done, campaigner for the freedom of the Matari, you just got 12,347 slaves killed. And one Amarrian graduate capsuleer.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Louella Dougans
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
#89 - 2014-11-29 20:51:34 UTC
Now look what you've done.

You've provoked Nauplius into action.

I hope you're happy with yourself.

Be a Space Nun, it is fun. \o/

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#90 - 2014-11-29 20:55:15 UTC
Does he really need provocation?
Astera Zandraki
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2014-11-29 21:00:45 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Astera Zandraki wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
You're all monsters. This universe is full of monsters.


Really, Cos? So dramatic.


I'm dramatic? What the hell does that make the original post then? Or all the people talking about the best ways to torture and execute people?

**** you.


The OP is simply a case of asinine theatrics, everything after is the casual sadism and disregard for life so many of our kind exhibit. What moral compass do you use to judge the OP a 'monster' in any case?

Don't misunderstand me, I feel for that kid, that's no way to go out.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2014-11-30 00:10:42 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Phanca Zanjoahir has been avenged.

Hours ago, 10,000 filthy Minmatar subhuman slaves were acquired from Ammatar Mandate slave markets, flown to the Lisudeh system, packed into Sigil-class Industrials, and incinerated by the holy light of Amarrian pulse lasers. Any slaves who survived in the wreckage were incinerated a second time.

Then, I ordered an across-the-board flogging and mauling (by slaver hounds) of my standing (and again, all-Minmatar) slave population. 2,247 did not survive the ordeal.

Finally, 100 Minmatar slaves were brought aboard my Ashimmu-class SS Bloodletter, strapped to the altar of God, and with perfectly executed splatter cuts made an offering to the Red God. The remains of these slaves and those who died in the flogging and mauling were flown into Mehatoor deep space and incinerated.

As is typical for my slave sacrifices, these destructions can be verified in the usual places. And now, Saint and martyr to God Phanca Zanjoahir may look down from her place among the blood-splattered golden towers of Paradise upon these 12,347 slaves sacrificed unto her name and condemned to Hell and delight eternally in their destruction. Amen. Amarr Victor.

That was rather impotent savagery, Mr. Nauplius.
It doesn't matter, how many Minmatar slaves will die, Ms. Zanjoahir WON'T be avenged until those, who did it to her, will be detained.

Besides, I believe it was done not by minmatars, but by gallenteans, who are mental lunatics when it comes to questions about slavery.

So, unfortunately, your peoples, Mr. Nauplius, has died for nothing.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#93 - 2014-11-30 00:57:23 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Phanca Zanjoahir has been avenged.

Hours ago, 10,000 filthy Minmatar subhuman slaves were acquired from Ammatar Mandate slave markets, flown to the Lisudeh system, packed into Sigil-class Industrials, and incinerated by the holy light of Amarrian pulse lasers. Any slaves who survived in the wreckage were incinerated a second time.

Then, I ordered an across-the-board flogging and mauling (by slaver hounds) of my standing (and again, all-Minmatar) slave population. 2,247 did not survive the ordeal.

Finally, 100 Minmatar slaves were brought aboard my Ashimmu-class SS Bloodletter, strapped to the altar of God, and with perfectly executed splatter cuts made an offering to the Red God. The remains of these slaves and those who died in the flogging and mauling were flown into Mehatoor deep space and incinerated.

As is typical for my slave sacrifices, these destructions can be verified in the usual places. And now, Saint and martyr to God Phanca Zanjoahir may look down from her place among the blood-splattered golden towers of Paradise upon these 12,347 slaves sacrificed unto her name and condemned to Hell and delight eternally in their destruction. Amen. Amarr Victor.

That was rather impotent savagery, Mr. Nauplius.
It doesn't matter, how many Minmatar slaves will die, Ms. Zanjoahir WON'T be avenged until those, who did it to her, will be detained.

Besides, I believe it was done not by minmatars, but by gallenteans, who are mental lunatics when it comes to questions about slavery.

So, unfortunately, your peoples, Mr. Nauplius, has died for nothing.


You miss Naupilus' point, Diana. First he's saying that one Amarrian is worth 12,347 Minmatar. Also, when it comes to Naupilus, Minmatar slaves never die for nothing. The dying is the whole point of them. I did tell the first murderer in this thread that he'd hardly be the last one in it.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#94 - 2014-11-30 01:01:57 UTC
I see this point, and I believe it to be absolutely absurd.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#95 - 2014-11-30 01:11:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I see this point, and I believe it to be absolutely absurd.

Most points that have to be made with violence are.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#96 - 2014-11-30 01:35:34 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I see this point, and I believe it to be absolutely absurd.

Most points that have to be made with violence are.

Violence isn't a tool for making points.
Violence is a tool for getting job done.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#97 - 2014-12-01 00:35:44 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I see this point, and I believe it to be absolutely absurd.

Most points that have to be made with violence are.

Violence isn't a tool for making points.
Violence is a tool for getting job done.

And that job would be?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#98 - 2014-12-01 00:39:57 UTC
Securing objective.
Eliminating threat.
Retrieving the mission goal.
Upholding the law.

And many others, depending on situation.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Aiko Ueshiba
Doomheim
#99 - 2014-12-01 01:17:37 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Phanca Zanjoahir has been avenged.


No, she hasn't. Not really. But congratulations on helping to create a new generation of Minmatar extremists. Well done.

None of us are innocent when it comes to taking a life. Two weeks on, and even I have killed...many.

But you waste. You waste blood and dna and talent and life. And for what?

Some day, many years from now, when the Gallente have been subjugated and the Minmatar brought to heel, the State and the Empire will contest for ultimate control of this galaxy. And on that day, I will be there to remind you the price of your wastefullness.


"... I assume that any work which engages with the future must necessarily consist of fragments of the past; any vision we have of the future is necessarily built of our experience to the moment in which we conceive of the vision." W. Gibson.

Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#100 - 2014-12-01 03:46:21 UTC
Aiko Ueshiba wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Phanca Zanjoahir has been avenged.


No, she hasn't. Not really. But congratulations on helping to create a new generation of Minmatar extremists. Well done.

None of us are innocent when it comes to taking a life. Two weeks on, and even I have killed...many.

But you waste. You waste blood and dna and talent and life. And for what?

Some day, many years from now, when the Gallente have been subjugated and the Minmatar brought to heel, the State and the Empire will contest for ultimate control of this galaxy. And on that day, I will be there to remind you the price of your wastefullness.




Please do not assume the Nauplius is representative of the Amarrian people.....he's what we in the business call "stark-raving mad" and is a genocidal heretic of the worst kind.