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I dont understand my reprocessing percentages

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yutah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-11-29 03:41:43 UTC  |  Edited by: yutah
So i'm currently reprocessing and dont understand what the numbers im seeing in the tooltip actually mean. any help in simply understanding the numbers would be appreciated!

Ive read the equations but I still don't understand. Specifically the 'reduction from station owner tax'

Reprocessing V
Reprocessing efficiency V
Veldspar processing V

Starting with the basics ignoring tax for a second and implants with my above skills I should see: if I understand correctly

Reprocessing yield: Station Equipment x (1 + Refining skill x 0.03) x (1 + Refining Efficiency skill x 0.02) x (1 + Ore Processing skill x 0.02)

50x (1.15) x (1.1) x (1.1) = 69.575

1) is this math and working correct?

Which is great that all makes sense and I can see those exact same green numbers (apart from the end % but ill get to that) in the tooltip.

I also have RX-002 implant +2% so I assume the formula should now be

50x (1.15) x (1.1) x (1.1) x (1.02) = 70.9665

2) do i understand implants correctly if I had the +4% implant i would replace 1.02 with 1.04 and thus the total wold be 72.358%

This is where I get confused:

Now lastly lets bring into the equation station tax: I read the post https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=360942 but i simply dont understand what the below means what is maximum?

Tax Multiplier = 1 - MAXIMUM( 0 , 5 - NPC Corp Standing * 0.75) / 100

I also read 6.67 is the standing needed to get no tax.

Im now at 6.70 Station owner corperation standing (connections 5 raises your effective standing from 5.88) (excellent)

In the tooltip in red it says reduction from station owner tax 0.999988773259 and my total reprocessing percentage is 69.6%

3) I just simply dont understand what is happening regarding the tax; why it is in red and what those numbers mean. Is 1 or 0 here 'good' why is my % not showing at 70.9665?

any help would be really appreciated thankyou !

I hope this all makes sense: see screengrab: flikr
Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#2 - 2014-11-29 05:05:21 UTC
I'm pretty sure that the standing has to be the actual standing, not effective.
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#3 - 2014-11-29 14:33:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the standing has to be the actual standing, not effective.


I'm 95% certain that 'effective' ie standings including the effects of 'social' skills is the figure that is used to get 'zero take'.

I presume the OP is talking about reprocessing in high sec systems ? If so I will tell you what you need to get the maximum reprocessing yield. It's best not to bother hovering over those tooltips etc. as numerous figures given by the CCP interface are borked/bugged but I won't discuss those here.

Reprocessing at NPC station in high sec:

An NPC station with base 50% reprocessing yield.
6.67 'effective' standings or higher with the NPC corp owning said NPC station.
Reprocessing V
Reprocessing Efficiency V
The relevant specific ore processing skill/s to V
An RX-804 hardwiring fitted in your clone.

Reprocessing at a reprocessing array at a POS in high sec:

All of the above EXCEPT the NPC standings requirement. * And obviously the NPC 50% base yield can be ignored too here*

In the above two situations you will get the maximum reprocessing yield in high sec. At the POS/reprocessing array you get 2% more I believe which is worth doing if you able to do so. Just put the POS & array online for one hour and you can reprocess a lot of ore in that time.

" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. " Rick. " Find out what ? " Abraham. " They're screwing with the wrong people. " Rick. Season four.   ' The Walking Dead. ' .

yutah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-11-29 15:08:23 UTC
Thanks, I was talking about high sec refining yes.

Down time revealed a lot - it was quite interesting to log back in - it seems a lot of things had bugged out., which has bought up its own set of problems.

You can see my yeild was 69.6%

So I was indeed getting 'zero take' from the station tax -

1) it was just displaying in the tooltip incorrectly (it now appears correctly after downtime)

and the math supported this.

2) there was an additional bug that my implant RX-002 implant was not being calculated - I confirmed this by unplugging the implant and the % remained the same. Even though it was being calculated in the tooltip the final yeild did not support the math that it was plugged in.

so now my confusion is that are implants not working propperly? is this a common thing??


Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-29 16:00:54 UTC
Implants work fine. The display is bugged. You'll get the correct minerals out.