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AWOX/SAFARI UPDATE!

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Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-11-29 06:28:29 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Persifonne wrote:
Zkill.com/awox is arguement/proof/end of story. More people self destruct than get safaries in hisec. The lolishtar kills more people prob in 1hr than awox in hisec in 6months. Ccp needs to focus on balance and changes that need focused on not this that barely affects anyone and those it does affect can avoid it

Ever consider that most awox's don't actually get onto the killboards.
Because the target doesn't have a linked API or post the loss mail manually, while the awox'er wants to keep under the radar so they can do it to another corp.
Zkill is not a perfect record of EVE's kills, nor is it even close to a real record.


No. I get into corps on the reg with api on all accounts on their. Youd see more bear threads about it too dude. It doesnt happen as pften as the crazyangrybear mob would have you believe and it doesnt happy to 5day old ventures
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-11-29 06:29:36 UTC
I'd just like to say that I agree with the OP;

Highsec awoxing is done SO incredibly little in the past 5 months, that the sooner it is removed from the game, the sooner we can all forget that we even cared it was removed. Considering this is an issue that causes far more concern for new players, and prevents them from joining player corps, than it actually happens, just get rid of it and be done with it.

+1 for removing highsec corp awoxing by Rhea.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#23 - 2014-11-29 06:30:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Persifonne wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Right now, CCP is pushing for this change because they're claiming that the cause is new players dying, and the effect is no one's willing to join player corporations.


[CITATION NEEDED]

Hysteria is bad m'kay.




Csm minutes said pretty much exactly that actually lol. That it makes new players stay in npc corps which leads to less retention and that ccp wants it gone by end of year so new players leave npc corp. Like basically exactly that


Since CCP alone has access to any meaningful statistics let me rephrase:

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#24 - 2014-11-29 06:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Arronicus wrote:
I'd just like to say that I agree with the OP;

Highsec awoxing is done SO incredibly little in the past 5 months, that the sooner it is removed from the game, the sooner we can all forget that we even cared it was removed. Considering this is an issue that causes far more concern for new players, and prevents them from joining player corps, than it actually happens, just get rid of it and be done with it.

+1 for removing highsec corp awoxing by Rhea.

So your justification for a change is that it's a cause of concern for a group of people out of sheer ignorance as to the reality of the matter? Because if so, I have some more game mechanics I'd like to nominate for removal. For example, how about we remove all capital ships from the game? New players seem to be under the impression that they'll never be able to use them without waiting for a decade and dumping hundreds of real-life dollars into the game to buy them, and it has to result in some number of them not continuing their subscriptions. How about we remove incursions and null-sec anomalies, because they're obviously destroying the economy with massive inflation?

Or are you saying that it's fine to get rid of a gameplay component only because a tiny percentage of all players makes use of it? Because if so, we should probably just cut out that whole wormhole thing, since only five or six percent of the entire game's player base lives in them.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-11-29 06:41:33 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
I'd just like to say that I agree with the OP;



Guess what my hand is doing right this moment as i read that allowd?? I like when you agree with me yo
Tam Arai
Mi Pen Rai
#26 - 2014-11-29 07:29:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tam Arai
police- you're in trouble- you just killed someone
badman- but I work at the same company as him..
police- sorry to disturb you. carry on

It is being removed because it is a stupid mechanic not for noob reasons or anything.

also if nobody awoxes anymore, why are people bothered about losing it?

wardecs are not as broken as awoxing so losing awoxing does not mean the slippery slope to losing wardecs after
Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-11-29 07:32:57 UTC
Wardecs are the NUMBER 1 MOST BROKE THiNG IN GAME.

Spend 50mill...
Dude folds corp reforms (used to be an exploit btw)

Or spend 50mill...
Everrrybody goes to live in npc corp for week

Suicide gank is ONLY way to non consenually touch anyone
Tam Arai
Mi Pen Rai
#28 - 2014-11-29 07:37:46 UTC
Persifonne wrote:
Wardecs are the NUMBER 1 MOST BROKE THiNG IN GAME.

Spend 50mill...
Dude folds corp reforms (used to be an exploit btw)

Or spend 50mill...
Everrrybody goes to live in npc corp for week

Suicide gank is ONLY way to non consenually touch anyone


but the overall idea of wardecs is good

therefore it is going to be fixed rather than removed

awoxing is a stupid mechanic completely, hence its removal
Josef Djugashvilis
#29 - 2014-11-29 07:49:30 UTC
I like to think that should my one man corp be wardecced and I am ganked to hell and back, that I could create an alt, join the offending corp and attempt to destroy them from the inside.

This is Eve Online afterall.

This is not a signature.

Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-11-29 07:50:11 UTC
Tam Arai wrote:
Persifonne wrote:
Wardecs are the NUMBER 1 MOST BROKE THiNG IN GAME.

Spend 50mill...
Dude folds corp reforms (used to be an exploit btw)

Or spend 50mill...
Everrrybody goes to live in npc corp for week

Suicide gank is ONLY way to non consenually touch anyone


but the overall idea of wardecs is good

therefore it is going to be fixed rather than removed

awoxing is a stupid mechanic completely, hence its removal



Then ccp should be allocationg and spenidng resources and time fixing things that matter and are important and broke like wardecs, warevasion, lolisktars, tech2 short range ammo.

Not wasting time "fixing" safaris and nerfing scorch 2% and spending additional extra time fozzie said putting icebelts in frig wormholes that cant be mined. Wake up, ccp is ignoring stuff that needs fixed and screwin round with pointless crap
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#31 - 2014-11-29 07:51:24 UTC
Tam Arai wrote:
police- you're in trouble- you just killed someone
badman- but I work at the same company as him..
police- sorry to disturb you. carry on

It is being removed because it is a stupid mechanic not for noob reasons or anything.

also if nobody awoxes anymore, why are people bothered about losing it?

wardecs are not as broken as awoxing so losing awoxing does not mean the slippery slope to losing wardecs after

Using this very logic, should we not have CONCORD punish corp theft, and even regular in-space can theft as well? Or are we fine with holding on to a double standard as long as it benefits us personally?

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-29 07:52:12 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I like to think that should my one man corp be wardecced and I am ganked to hell and back, that I could create an alt, join the offending corp and attempt to destroy them from the inside.

This is Eve Online afterall.



Dude get revenge by just closing corp and immediately like 1sec later reformimg the corp and making them lose 50mill and wardec over. Its what the cool kids do and used be exploit til bears cried and got allowed again
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#33 - 2014-11-29 08:52:55 UTC
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