EVE General Discussion

Cuz only the .001% certain to be affected by this give a fedo's arse.

Your bet would be wrong. Most awoxing isnt done to noobs look on zkill.com/awox. You really think people make alts, join corps just to shoot at ventures or some dude running level 1s in a frig?? No. They awox year old miners they awox pay2win plex missioners. They awox people that can and should avoid it.

All this protect the newbros dying to safaris is ludicrious. It doesnt happen lemmings. Look it up. Its just some story you all run with like a crazed mob. No ones joining corps to kill 3day old ventures lol.

I'd like to know this too.

While I don't engage in this activity (I tend to predominantly run my own corporations, and in a way in which reputation is important), awoxing is one of the Big Three non-consensual pvp methods in the game, with the other two being wars and ganking. If they remove it from the game, it means that CCP is invariably heading down the path of making high-sec safe, because the logic is easy to follow, and its conclusion is evident:

"Okay, we removed awoxing, but no one's still joining corporations because it doesn't stop them from getting killed and having "bad experiences" with the game, what do we do?"
"Well, players complain that when they join corporations, they get war declared on them, and that interferes with their gameplay..."

And then half a year later, war recipients need to agree to wars in order for them to go live.

But it's okay, because we'll still be able to gank, right? Right? Just one more nerf is all we need, guys.

Removing awoxing would set a very obvious precedent, and would make CCP go back on the notion that EVE is harsh and dangerous. On top of that, it makes no sense from the perspective of EVE's storyline, since CONCORD doesn't meddle in the internal affairs of capsuleer corporations because they exist as separate political entities. It would be akin to CONCORD outlawing the execution of convicted criminals within the four empires; it simply has no jurisdiction to do that.

And finally, doing this would be game-breaking with regard to a few very important game mechanics, such as corp theft. If some guy decides to start clearing out your tower, you wouldn't even be able to do anything about it. That's just absurd.

To obviously reiterate on what others have said: newbies don't get awoxed anyway; the rare cases where it does happen are total outliers. Players who dump hundreds of dollars into PLEXes to buy characters and blinged-out mission boats on their first day in the game are not newbies.


If they remove awoxing, which will obviously accomplish nothing, wars will be next. They'll use the very same excuse, too.

Confirming that poasting in all caps validates baseless opinions as fact.

Got a better argument than a strawman or non sequitur?

Might I make a suggestion?
Decaf.
Until there's something in a patch note or on a dev blog about this it's still a non-issue. There are many things that CCP has wanted to do but never did for whatever reason. Trying to drum up panic about this serves no purpose.

It will be too late then. Ever wonder what if anakin died at the pod race? This needs squashed and ccp refocused onto something that actually needs changed and fixed... like 2% nerfs to scorch i guess? Lol

yes, if he'd died in the pod race I wouldn't have had to suffer through even more cinematic dreck.

Ever consider that most awox's don't actually get onto the killboards.
Because the target doesn't have a linked API or post the loss mail manually, while the awox'er wants to keep under the radar so they can do it to another corp.
Zkill is not a perfect record of EVE's kills, nor is it even close to a real record.

I don't know how they do it, but actually, it pretty much is almost a perfect record of the kills that happen in the game. I've had deaths show up there on alts that died to NPCs in alt corps with no API keys in existence. At the very least, it's a very accurate killboard.