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Living in a wormhole

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Ching Chong LingSong
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-11-28 20:22:18 UTC
How many SP do you recommend to

1) PVE in wormhole
2) Relic/Arch sites in wormhole

Elecitrickery
Clueless Thrillseekers
#2 - 2014-11-28 20:51:36 UTC
It depends on what class wh ... Also how many of you are running together. Minimum sp I've used with an alt is 18mil. This is a decent scanner, and decent combat skills, plus the extras that come with wh life. You can do it with less but you need a lot of focused skills.
Elecitrickery
Clueless Thrillseekers
#3 - 2014-11-28 20:55:12 UTC
Drop me a mail... If you're interested in wh life our corp, or others I could recommend (some of which we fight with, but are good corps) just depends what u want.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-11-28 23:04:41 UTC
Ching Chong LingSong wrote:
How many SP do you recommend to

1) PVE in wormhole
2) Relic/Arch sites in wormhole



All scanning skills to 4, marauder/tengu skills to 4, all hacking skills to 4-5, combat/defence/engineering skills to 4 at least.

Access to a marauder/tengu, mid-level deadspace mods, hacking/scanning ship.

With the above you can do C5.
Serene Repose
#5 - 2014-11-28 23:30:48 UTC
Eleven.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Ching Chong LingSong
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-11-29 00:25:35 UTC
Okay thanks.

My friends and I are all about 2 months into this game. We have about 2 mil SP a piece. So pretty far off from being able to hang out in WH's then...
Mathias Karsten
Cygni Mira Conglomerate
#7 - 2014-11-29 00:39:49 UTC
Ching Chong LingSong wrote:
Okay thanks.

My friends and I are all about 2 months into this game. We have about 2 mil SP a piece. So pretty far off from being able to hang out in WH's then...


Wait.

While you may not be able to do it alone right now, do not let that discourage you from aiming towards wormholes. Keep trying and keep failing. Your first wormhole venture is going to fail, especially if it's your first EVE venture.

Certainly you will need specific skills to even get to the wormholes in the first place (each of you needs to be able to scan. not amazingly well, but enough if someone gets in a bind), and you should know what you plan to do in a wormhole when you are there and what you need to do to stay there.

I do recommend first joining an already established wormhole-living corporation to understand how one works before you and your friends do it alone.

ok bye

Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#8 - 2014-11-29 04:13:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Do you need bucket loads of sp? No. You can do the majority of pve sites in drakes or battle cruisers (c1 through c3).

I wouldn't bother with c4 and above atm.

You don't need a tengu, or a t3 to do wormholes. They help a TON, but are not required. You have a friend though, do this.

Check out the wormhole forums, specifically the stickies.
Check out the ingame channel "join w-space" (no quotes). For any general questions.

Some basic rules for doing exploration in wormholes... Start with just probing down relic and data sites. The NON sleeper ones. Those don't have any enemies in them. Normally called "angel" or "serpentis", etc. you can do some exploration that way and get used to being in the space. And if you die, you are just losing a cheap exploration frigate.

Train up into at minimum, a covert ops scout (t2 covert frigate that can fit a cloaking device and a combat probe launcher). Begin training up probing skills (4's are fine), and practice probing. Practice both probing signatures and combat probing ships and people. As you jump down wormholes, if you see a non sleeper relic and data site, run them. Consider this whole step practice. You can do all of this without having to setup a pos. we call this type of activity day tripping. Probe highsec for a wormhole. Jump into it, dscan and probe it out. If you find a good signature or site, run it, bring your spoils back to highsec. Get used to setting up bookmarks and bookmarking every wormhole you find. You'll need to know where to go, how you got their, and how to return.

Your main target wormholes is going to be a c1 or c2 (c1 is the easiest as c2's tend to have more players looking to kill you.). Start day tripping into there first and see if you like it. Do this before you start trying to join wormhole corporations. You may not like it. You don't have to spend the entire day doing every site, jump in, do a few, leave. See what you made out of your effort.

If you do like it, then you'll have some basic experience under your belt.

Day trip through highsec and try it out. Pick a highsec base of operations (log in to your main highsec system, prove space up to 6 jumps out). Stay away from the systems immediately around jita, Amarr, and stay away from the Jita/Amarr freighter coorodor (basically stay out of high traffic highsec areas). You have to be comfortable with probing to really want to be in Wspace.

If your curious on what to train into, the default answer is a drake (a t1 battle cruiser), but in c1 or c2 most battle cruisers will work (in some instances a cruiser will also). Focus first on your tank (you will need to run an active tank with t2 resistance mods), then weapons (t2 launchers help but not required). don't bling fit it. Cheap is your friend when you are starting out. But since your bringing a buddy you should be fine.

To summarize. Day trip first and get used to probing. You can run non sleeper data and relic sites as you practice probing (for isk). When you are comfortable with that, start trying low end combat sites (c1 sites if you have NEVER touched wormhole space). Graduate up as you get comfortable. In c1 through c3 the value of the site is in the blue loot (what sleepers drop). These are sold to npc's in kspace. Salvage is another area you will need to do to make ISk in wormholes (salvage is great isk), but as you are just starting out, the blue loot is probably your main isk maker (focus on salvaging later in your eve career).

The other activity to do is to get into gas mining, but treat gas mining as solely a "mine it and immediately sell it", as to process it.. Is a pain and something you don't need to worry about. Just be careful because sleepers spawn in gas sites 10 minutes after you arrive. You can do what people call "ninja gas", go in with your venture and gas harvesters, suck gas, run when sleepers arrive. You can always return In a combat ship to blow them up.

Some of the best pilots I ever knew had under 10 million skill points. Never judge a person by their sp.

Hope that helps.

Yaay!!!!

Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-29 08:37:03 UTC
If you can fly an attack BC you can do C1-C3 (probably need a wingman for C3 if you have low skills.)

C4+, again, BC but more friends...

For data/arch sites... Worst case scenario would be similar to a Lvl IV, so plan for that.