In-Game Events and Gatherings

Learn some math and the rules. It is very possible to win more than once in the stellar, especially the infinite one.
But of course, like all the people that start wars, you accuse things without proof or without even looking for some proof.
Why not say it ISN"T a scam without having proof? Oh I know. Cause only haters gonna hate.

Didn't they pay back all of the ISK everyone had in their accounts?

I wonder why they would even need any of the ISK if they got banned.
DId you ever file anything with CCP or there was nothing you could do?

That sucks man and thanks for all the recognition ;) I and the bankers appreciate it! It is indeed a lot of work!
You can never leave EvE. It sucks you back in lol.
It is a great game. It was unfortunate what happened to you but hey, look on the bright side, you get to adventure through EVE while skilling up! That was my favorite.

I see no ads on your site. I asked a populated channel in eve if anyone saw ads. No one did. A few of your sites players spoke up and stated they had never seen ads. If you make money off ads, no one can find them. You claim ads pay the server costs but this appears to not be true.

Siteadvisor.com did not flag your old site for a flash issue. The site is a lot more sophisticated than that. You still have not answered why this site warns to avoid you. So why did your old site get flagged by siteadvisor for malware? Why were there several reports of key loggers or other malware from your sites players at the time? It seems something ill willed was happening.

I really don’t care if you are a scam. This is eve and people have been warned. Doing it via an out of game web site would be an EULA violation. Losers could petition a GM for being scammed via out of game web site and ask for the isk returned. I have heard of it happening.

So let’s see where we are:
1) Siteadvisor.com still warns to avoid your old site for malware.
2) There are several claims from players who encountered keyloggers.
3) You are sponsoring events for 200x the amounts Somer did and he was bigger than you at the time. Somer’s sponsorships were already 10 – 20x what everyone else in eve can afford to pay.
4) You likely pay over $100 a month in server costs.
5) You claim ads pay the server costs but no one can find the ads or remembers seeing any.
6) You don’t play eve – you just spend all that money for what motivation?

I have never played at your site. I looked into it and started finding these issues. I just posted here after checking for myself as a fair warning for the sites players. Check around folks it is not too hard to find people who have had issue with this site or the old one.

Gambling in Eve has turned out to be a scam or RMT 99.5% of the time. Considering that history, there are issues which can not be ignored and you have multiple. That can not be a coincidence.

I guess someone will always find a way to exploit things when money can get involved.

1) There is no way to even get to the old site. SiteAdvisor cannot update it's information due to the fact that the site no longer exists. I DID answer this question already but you say it's false so you can choose not to believe it if you want.
2) Several? Ever think someone was trying to bash my site out of jealousy just like you?
3) We are indeed sponsoring events bigger than blink. We are actually bigger than they were right now. We actually beat them 3 weeks before they got banned. We were awarding 5t ISK for every 1t they were awarding. You jealous I don't sponsor your events with so much ISK? We awarded 1 quadrillion in less than a year while somer awarded 1.8 quadrillion in 4 years. Do the math.
4) We pay over $160 a month in server costs. Lots of people play.
5) Do some research (as you seem to claim you do) on how ads are allowed/disallowed within EVE. Good luck!
6) I don't play EvE other than to pay bankers and such. I spend all the ISK by giving it out to attract more players, like I stated before (but like a nagging old hag you skip answers and re-ask the same questions).

Now I have a question for you.
1) Did you ever get laid? Cause in this existence, getting laid is 100% the human goal.

Sorry if I come off as irritated. You are simply doing this "research" on my site but are only bringing up the negative aspects of your research. For example, all of the questions you have above can be answered with answers that can be found in the same exact forum that generated that question for you. Next time you want your opinion to really matter, do some serious research. I only answered your flash-backs of information to let other players know the answers. You should have known them already.

As for "the same people always win!" story, you only see what you want to see. I personally know all of the high rollers on the site, and when you see them win 5 raffles in and row and ask "Hey Lenny, how much are you up today?" because it looks crazy, their response is often times along the lines up "I'm down 200bil today, actually. That win almost broke me even though".

The last 4 Stellar Pools have been won by new players with less than 500 tickets out of the 1000 (+10 per level, so 1500 for the average daily player) maximum. Each of them took home between 29 billion to 90 billion. Plenty of high rollers may have spent 100-200bil in that time frame and still lost the Stellar to some new guy with 50 tickets.

On the Infinite Pools, it's a bit different; the big, heavy hitters win way more than everyone else because that's how the INFINITE is designed. You can have an infinite amount of tickets, so those who spend more (and win/lose more) have more chances to win.


As for the raffles, I often hear people complain that "the same people win every raffle" when they overlook the fact that those are the guys who buy 70% of the tickets when the person complaining buys 10%. Not to mention if you're buying 70% and win, your profit margins are very small, but if you DONT win with 70%.. you take a huge beating. And we see guys win 1-50bil raffles with a single ticket very, very often. Guess who really lost there? The same guys who buy all the tickets that everyone complains about.

One of our biggest players (if you play on the site, you know who he is lol) just lost roughly 1.2 TRILLION in 2 days. He had a massive streak of bad luck. He deposited his last 200bil on the site, bought like 50% on the Guardian Vexor and it TRIPLED for him, putting him back up almost 600 billion in a single raffle. He then doubled an Erebus for 200bil, and has since made a majority of his losses back.

It's gambling people. You WILL lose, period. But you will also win too. You have to learn to balance the losses and wins by noticing patterns in your win:loss ratio and pull out when you're not staying ahead. If you jump on 5 raffles and lose 100% of them, maybe it's time to walk away for a bit. Try again another day. Then you play 5 and win them all? Ramp it up a bit, streaks come and go a lot (in both directions).

It's not rocket science, it's gambling. You should NEVER play what you're not OKAY with losing.

Hell it's a Casino. The house always wins. They really do not need to have a scam attached. Saying that, I love IWantIsk. I've even hit a Jackpot... Unthinkable! It's not a damn scam anymore than Ceasars Palace is. I see your stepping up you AD campaign guys. Best of luck!

So, what you're saying is, if someone deposits 50mil and plays the slot machines, wins 200mil and then loses 200mil... the 200mil they were AWARDED goes to the AWARDED amount? LOL.. that's how awarding goes.

Just because the site awarded you 200mil and you decided to keep playing and lose it doesn't mean you weren't awarded 200mil. That monetary ticker doesn't say WITHDRAWN amount.

You have your math entirely wrong my good sir. House cut is only 2%. The rest is returned to you in many different ways.
It is 1 quadrillion ISK AWARDED, unlike somer blink that truly was lying by saying "our players have taken home 1 quadrillion ISK".

So you say that even though we award someone 1 billion, IF they decide to spend another 500m and lose, that we technically didn't award 1 billion in the first place?

Exactly.

So YOU can relax and let the real mathematicians do their work.

God I am getting so tired of ignorant buffoons assuming they know what is going on and then claiming that what they "figured" out is a FACT instead of saying things like "Maybe it's a scam" or "I don't think these stats are right".

As AMG SiR stated, if you go on slots/raffles and win 200m and continue to play with it, that is all on you. The site still awarded you 200m in 1 win and then maybe more in other wins. The statistic calculator does NOT calculate profit as it appears you were hoping it did.

I didn't read all of your math especially since right off the back, on your first bit of calculation, you failed to post the Experience gained, achievements gained, tokens gained, and stellar entries gained from each and every transaction.

Go back to school.