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Celestial phenomenon: Caroline's Star (The Bright Star)

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-11-27 18:00:34 UTC
Two days ago Brigadier General Odo Korachi has reported unusual Sansha activity in Oasa region, and the next day capsuleer explorer Caroline Grace ventured there to investigate Nation's activity.

Yesterday about 1830 time explorer Caroline Grace has reported an unusual celestial object into Intergalactic Summit NeoCom conference, and at 1957 UTC she has reported it in this forum here

This celestial object has a distinguishable feature: its flares mostly directed in vertical plane, while lens flares for suns and other bright objects are dominantly in horizontal plane.

Caroline Grace has made a camera shot, where the object's flares don't turn together with camera, like lens flares of other object (proof goes here).

This object was also found in New Eden system (as reported by Jaret Victorian).

Many other capsuleers were observing this object from numerous systems in our cluster.

Analyzing this, we can make following conclusions:
1) The flares of the object aren't lens effect, but properties of the object, which make it look like either an active black hole consuming matter with relativistic jets from poles (vertical flares) and accretion disk (horizontal flares), or supernova
2) The supernova hypothesis is barely confirmable, as the object have been seen through very distant systems (our cluster is about 100 light years in size), thus if it was a supernova, it would be observed from different systems at different stages, but pictures from all the system are identical, which means that the celestial object Caroline's star maintains this form for at least 100 years. Black holes can consume matter for even longer periods of time.
3) The object is in fact quite old (about 100 years - if it is visible from all systems in our cluster), and is probably the same one, as has been referenced by Lieutenant Samira Kernher here

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jade Blackwind
#2 - 2014-11-27 18:15:57 UTC
Isogen-5
It was isogen-5 last time.

*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours!
Joanne Breau
ST and JB Industries
#3 - 2014-11-27 18:24:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Joanne Breau
Additionally, comparisons between pictures from yesterday and pictures from today show that the phenomenon has grown brighter and bigger, as shown here http://imgur.com/a/BMu68.
There are theories going about that this is a FTL event, as it wasn't noticeable anywhere in New Eden last week and is now visible across the whole cluster.
Gaia Ma'chello
Photosynth
#4 - 2014-11-27 18:30:40 UTC
There is another possibility for how this object became visible across all of New Eden. It is emitting some form of FTL radiation. As this radiation travels, some of it decays into visible light that is emitted in the same direction of travel as the original radiation. The entire cluster became flooded with this radiation at about the same time, so we all see it.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-11-27 18:30:57 UTC
FTL event won't let light to spread faster than it spreads. Information can go FTL. Somehow that signal to Isogen-5, that it should go boom, traveled FTL. We through gates and wormholes travel FTL, warp drives work on FTL speeds.

But light is light, light can't spread faster than light, because it is damn light, and it has its damn speed, about 3x10^8 meters per second.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
#6 - 2014-11-27 18:35:57 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Isogen-5
It was isogen-5 last time.

*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours!



I too think that it is isogen-5
Joanne Breau
ST and JB Industries
#7 - 2014-11-27 18:37:39 UTC
It's not uncommon to see strange phenomena in New Eden, if the event itself could "push" light beyond its own maximum speed, it would become visible across the cluster.
Anslo
Scope Works
#8 - 2014-11-27 18:44:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.

Be ready.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Gaia Ma'chello
Photosynth
#9 - 2014-11-27 18:52:58 UTC
I'm sure we do not know of every phenomenon that can travel faster than light. My theory still works: FTL radiation is being emitted by... whatever..., travels throughout the cluster. Along the way some decays into light. When it does so in your solar system, you can see the light, right away. The travel distance is no longer an issue as the vast majority of the distance is traversed at FTL speeds.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-27 19:04:44 UTC
Physics, Ms. Ma'chello.

If there would be FTL radiation, decaying into light, first, amount of this radiation should be rather colossal, and second, it should decay constanly on its way to create image of the Caroline's star in multiple points.
Imagine you have two FTL particles, one decays at point A, second decays at point B. We register first light from point A, while light from FTL particle decayed at point B should travel A-B distance, thus it will get to observer later than particle A.
Thus we will have two images of the object at the same time. If there are more particles, that decay at different times, we will get multiple snapshots of the object, and thus on camera and on the sky the object would appear as having a blurred 'tail', as it moves (or as we move together with system in the cluster). It then would appear more like a comet.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#11 - 2014-11-27 19:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Very strange, what we are witnessing is by all the known laws of physics clearly impossibe.

However it is happening.

Any theory or hypothesis when encountering an occurence that contradicts it, requires us to either revise or disregard the hypothesis.

So the lesson of the last two days, is that we have made some significant errors in our scientific understanding.

Hopefully we can learn from them and learn the truth before something unfortunate happens we lack the knowledge to counter.
My only contribution to a potential theory, is that.

1. What we are seeing is not light travelling from the event.
2. The event is sending an unknown effect, at a speed significantly faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.
3. It is possible the effect is directly acting on our optic nerves and equipment, or only changes state when observed.

Beyond that it is beyond our current theories, and only very loosely matches our knowledge or interpretation of quantum effects.
Multidimensional theories, simply fail to address this,

We need to think beyond cause and effect, for all we know in this case the effect may preceed the cause.
We simply cannot assume that space time is unaffected or even involved.

This is not the first time we have witnessed similar, we failed to understand it then or modify our hypothesis.

That in retrospect was somewhat unfortunate.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#12 - 2014-11-27 19:58:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Reposting in this thread regarding the waves made by--and the equivalent lack of explanation of--the Bright Star's last appearance 6 years ago, as I believe it's important to keep in mind.



And there is now a news report of this new star: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/stellar-anomaly-detected-by-capsuleers/

The last Bright Star heralded the most momentous events of the last decade, which included the holy resurrection of Her Imperial Majesty, armed with a godly weapon, along with the Malkalen attack, the assault on CONCORD, the start of the Empyrean War, and so on. The Seyllin Incident happened exactly one year later. Notably, the Bright Star disappeared in early March of YC110, and the Seyllin Incident happened on March 10th of YC111. So Doctor Cassira's hypothesis, in today's report, is unlikely: Whatever space-time disruptions that might have been caused by the Seyllin Incident, they were not needed for the first Bright Star to appear.


We can try to understand how this star can be, but we shouldn't get lost studying the lighthouse and so miss the ship steaming towards shore. God has given us this star is a sign of things to come. Mr. Tetua has the right idea.
Mecanos
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#13 - 2014-11-27 19:59:59 UTC
My Gratitude to Caroline Grace as she passed through the systems i live the last 6 years and brought to my attention with extraordinay passion the details of her research about the Bright Star.

I was just staring at this Bright phenomenon while traveling through Vale of the silent region, but now i think i got overwhelmed by it.

My exploration ship is now called Caroline Star and here are some images i captured from Vale of the silent region at certain systems which they are full of Jovian Aura.

http://imgur.com/KJA7og3

http://imgur.com/dem5tJw

excuse my poor input, but im in space more than 15hours at this moment, this was more of a thank you capsuleers out there, that keep the spirit of adventure alive and the pure curiosity that leads to giant leaps... in space.
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
#14 - 2014-11-27 20:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Taraki Orani
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I’m frankly baffled. The information we’ve been able to gather from this anomaly is in some respects suggestive of a core collapse supernova but there is simply no way in which the light would be visible in every system of the cluster. It is there. It is manifesting faster than light. It should not be possible.
Wolls Obraio, Professor of Astrophysics at Caille University


Really Interesting..

Anslo wrote:
Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.

Be ready.


This. and just do not underestime the unknown.

I as a scientist also believe in the prohecies. I gathered a lot of finding related to the star. Will publish them soon.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#15 - 2014-11-27 20:10:18 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.

Be ready.


Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger?
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2014-11-27 20:30:45 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.

Be ready.


Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger?


The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...

It is fairly safe to say that we're probably looking more at something like the former rather than the latter but, personally, I'm making sure that my personnel are moved to self-sufficient systems, in case the jumpgate system collapses. If it does, I'm activating my softclone in Highsec.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#17 - 2014-11-27 20:37:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.

Be ready.


Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger?


The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...

It is fairly safe to say that we're probably looking more at something like the former rather than the latter but, personally, I'm making sure that my personnel are moved to self-sufficient systems, in case the jumpgate system collapses. If it does, I'm activating my softclone in Highsec.


So, ya..... I think Its a safe bet then....... Looks like its time to pick up a few more ships.....

Thanks for clarifying that for me Pieter.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-11-27 20:46:57 UTC
Oh, sweet Maker.

Now even scientists have no freaking idea, what is going on, what would you expect from just a soldier like me...

THANKS, CAROLINE GRACE, FOR BREAKING OUR PHYSICS... I'll go home drinking my tea.

Ah, one more thing. During one particular physics lesson, our teacher was showing us, why the casuality principle exists, and that the quants of space can form continuous fabric of space-time only with this principle. If it becomes broken, space turns into a sponge and collapses.

We have built stargates. We made warp drives, and now it's time for the Universe itself to return at us, with fabric of spacetime collapsing on our eyes. First, wormholes appearing everywhere. Now that star, appearing in every solar system.

Does anyone care to make calculations until we all collapse into a singularity, eh?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#19 - 2014-11-27 20:48:44 UTC
Just have everyone equipped Dess. And I mean everyone.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#20 - 2014-11-27 20:53:31 UTC
Will do, believe me that's not a problem...
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