EVE General Discussion

Because that is what highsec is to me - a place where you do not need to protect yourself - you just need to tank enough to survive the 20 odd seconds until CONCORD comes. It's safe, there is police protection in place, the people are generally law abiding and friendly, and it lends itself to collaborative PvE activities rather than PvP. In short, it's what makes Eve fun for me. I often prefer to work with people to shoot up NPCs rather than to try and blow up other people. Thankfully highsec was designed with people like me in mind...and despite all the pathetic screaming for nerfs, for less safety, for broader wardeccs, etc.... (often by Goons!), CCP has thankfully decided to keep it robustly safe. And I'm proud to support that, and oppose the CODE/Goon agenda to force everyone into low/null.

I'm sure you will manage to control yourself. HTFU

More nonsensical drivel. And coming from someone who claimed to want to avoid the Grrr Veers stuff.

Yes - I am risk averse. Here is a secret - so are the goons. So is the vast majority of Eve. Giant coalitions in nullsec - you guessed it, risk aversion.

As far as non-consensual PvP, I support suicide ganking in highsec. Please stop lying and making believe otherwise. I am fine with committing crimes in highsec, though I do think GCC timers should be longer for those with lower security statuses. Repeat criminals should be punished.

I'm sorry if you have a different vision for highsec than I do. Here is a clue for you Sherlock - I don't really care. You are someone that I don't regard very highly, and if you supported an idea of mine, then I'd be concerned. I welcome your hatred...maybe you should make another 35 page whiny troll thread full of hot air and failed wardeccs? Seems to suit you style.

Yes, I do believe highsec should be relatively safe, and that's not gonna change because of your whining. HTFU and cut the Grrr Veers garbage, it's pretty nauseating. Get a psychologist.

Not at all. People are certainly entitled to disagree and present other visions for highsec. Some would like to abolish NPC corps, get rid of CONCORD, make wardeccs easier and broader, etc.... The key is to disagree without flamewars, personal attacks, and Grrr Veers garbage...and that is where my opposition falls short. More immaturity and lack of emotional control than anything else.

You yourself have engaged in flamewars, personal attacks and Grrr:Goons/Code/Nullsec/High Sec/PVP garbage.

Fortunately, by virtue of Veers' general irrelevance, we can all be thankful his 'vision' for highsec will go left unseen by the developers who don't share an ounce of it. His little tantrums on the forums notwithstanding, the latest updates to the game, as well as what's incoming, make it clear the direction this game is taking. Veers' obvious self-interest and delusions of self-importance are quite clear to anyone capable of understanding the true nature and intentions of EVE Online gameplay. I only find it sad how thoroughly he's convinced himself that he and his 'vision' matters to anyone at all.

Veers, if you have a 'vision', go make your own game with it.

Only in an Ishtar can this be done.

That range tank while still doing all the damage too stronk.

Where's the fun in that? A serious risk of loss is part of what makes mission baiting fun.
I'm not against the use of logistics, mind you... it's just something I don't require to do my work on a daily basis. Usually I don't even have boosts, it's just a lonely little frigate looking for hot sweaty battleship/battlecruiser lovings.
The thrill when you're engaged by a ship that dwarfs yours and you see your shields melt immediately under their drones, followed by a frantic struggle to kill them off before they kill you... it's hard to describe. My heart tries to jump out of my chest every time, and I'm genuinely thankful that it happened after the fact... regardless of outcome.
I can't get that rush shooting red plusses or badtouching hapless asteroids. Only through human interaction is this possible.

Maybe I'm weird in that I want the fight more than anything else. Winning is nice, but it's still fun for me even if I lose.

Posts like these demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of what EVE is (notice the term "unfair fight", which is not possible in EVE because to have an unfair fight their must be some since of 'fair' to begin with, which EVE does not have).

The breathing air analogy doesn't fit. When a person sells something in EVE, he affects everyone else (negatively), if he DIDN"T see it, someone else could have made more money off of the exchange of his own items (because his own items would be worth more). Some guy breathing air in India doesn't get to breathe even more air if i die in Texas.

Intent is meaningless, no one cares what you 'want' or 'mean' to do, what matters is the tangible, measurable effect of what you do. And doing things for gain has a tangible, measurable NEGATIVE effect on others, which is one of the indicators of EVE Online being a pvp game (there other indicator being that is has people in it).

I'll echo this , every time I get the carebear stare (yellow boxed) I get the shakes, every time.