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Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#161 - 2014-11-27 05:50:02 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
[quote=Epikurus] You know where Rakapas is. Come and take it.



Sheesh X.Gal - it's a strategically important station system. What on earth makes you think anyone in Calmil would be in the least bit interested in taking it. Shocked

Besides, Rakapas is our playground.
The old swings there are a bit rusty, could use a lick of paint and they have a tendancy to break around downtime.
The roundabout squeaks a little if too many link characters sit on it but it has a quaint Gheylente charm not found anywhere else in the warzone.

Nah man, Rakapas is just fine the way it is. Just let it be.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#162 - 2014-11-27 06:38:45 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Sheesh X.Gal - it's a strategically important station system.

I think you're overstating it a bit. How could a mission station system one jump from the Pyne/Hikk choke point be of any strategic value?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#163 - 2014-11-27 07:09:40 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
Even he is now saying that it may not be objectively true. Its just true based on his frame of reference.


FTFY.

Even when i see a fleet of squids, they are camping the pyne/hik/nen gates and have made it perfectly clear they have no interest in an actual fight.

Prove me wrong. Break the status quo and try and do something consequential. It would seem that galmil effort in our warzone is stealing momentum from the farmarrians riding the pendulum to what would have been inevitable victory in the past. So calmil may have to do something for themselves after all.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#164 - 2014-11-27 09:03:27 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Even he is now saying that it may not be objectively true. Its just true based on his frame of reference.


FTFY.

Even when i see a fleet of squids, they are camping the pyne/hik/nen gates and have made it perfectly clear they have no interest in an actual fight.

Prove me wrong. Break the status quo and try and do something consequential. It would seem that galmil effort in our warzone is stealing momentum from the farmarrians riding the pendulum to what would have been inevitable victory in the past. So calmil may have to do something for themselves after all.



You getting all narky at having to def plex all those ditty systems from everyone's Amarrian alts (including a large number of Galmils I'm sure) will not change things Crosi. Lol
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#165 - 2014-11-27 09:47:28 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:


So yeah, you guys are out in space doing something with somebody whatever. Congrats. You know where Rakapas is. Come and take it.



Please don't tell people to do that.

Rakapas is my favourite place to farm LP and Gallente tears.

How will Rapid Withdrawl know where to go to lose all their ships if we are no longer there?

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#166 - 2014-11-27 09:56:23 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:


You getting all narky at having to def plex all those ditty systems from everyone's Amarrian alts (including a large number of Galmils I'm sure) will not change things Crosi. Lol


Narky? Its actually been good timing. Havent earned much isk for the last 2 years so circumstances couldnt be better for a bit of intensive recouping

Not sure what change you think i want, i guess they were just random words.
Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#167 - 2014-11-27 10:55:22 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Despite that, I don't see you talking down to Moira. or Aideron or any of the other Gal corps outside the top five in the same way.
Yeah well they put in their fair share of pvp, and they're under the same "starving for kills" situation we're in. Anyways, I'm sure you guys fly around in 30 man fleets everywhere. It's just that we're (including Crosi) not seeing them - probably because our side of the warzone is dead. My guess is AIDER and RDRAW probably see these fleets more often than us.


It's true that most of the action we're seeing is over in the east the last 5-6 weeks. We would love to see more closer to home but we rarely find significant gangs when we roam around west Black Rise and when we do it tends to be SCUM rather than GalMil. It's a vicious circle, I suppose as there is no motivation for Gal gangs to hang around in the west when we're roaming the east either. Maybe we can drop some advance notice in your public channel when we're going to be in the west and try to break the cycle.
greg01
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#168 - 2014-11-27 11:03:29 UTC
No apologies. No matter what condition the war zone is in. You, the enemy , can take your silly little request and shove it up your -------.

No Surrender.

IBS are recruiting.
Nalena Linova
State War Academy
Caldari State
#169 - 2014-11-27 11:09:35 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
We have guys bored to tears that there aren't any fights around. Your 313 man alliance has 864 total kills and you're all "Hey we fly lots of fleets man, we really do!". It's been several months since we took the warzone. You guys should have respawned a bit stronger by now.

So yeah, you guys are out in space doing something with somebody whatever. Congrats. You know where Rakapas is. Come and take it.


We field what numbers we can, but we aren't willing to whelp fleets to a superior entity just to feed you content. Unfortunately, new players don't like to join the losing side, so the status quo will probably persist for some time. All I can suggest is that if you want fights bring something we stand a chance against, or seek content elsewhere.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#170 - 2014-11-27 11:19:16 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


............. i guess they were just random words.


No, they were generally in the right order though I must admit to struggling for forums coherency late on a Saturday night after a wee swally.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2014-11-27 16:26:58 UTC
Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#172 - 2014-11-27 16:50:26 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
. We have guys bored to tears that there aren't any fights around..


They were on wrong place :) In last 24 hours almost 600 kills in Amamake, 266 in Huola - that is where fleet battles are going on now. You are bored - go fight amarr. They do fight in fleets.

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Moglarr
Operation Meatshield
#173 - 2014-11-27 18:42:45 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Despite that, I don't see you talking down to Moira. or Aideron or any of the other Gal corps outside the top five in the same way.
Yeah well they put in their fair share of pvp, and they're under the same "starving for kills" situation we're in. Anyways, I'm sure you guys fly around in 30 man fleets everywhere. It's just that we're (including Crosi) not seeing them - probably because our side of the warzone is dead. My guess is AIDER and RDRAW probably see these fleets more often than us.


It's true that most of the action we're seeing is over in the east the last 5-6 weeks. We would love to see more closer to home but we rarely find significant gangs when we roam around west Black Rise and when we do it tends to be SCUM rather than GalMil. It's a vicious circle, I suppose as there is no motivation for Gal gangs to hang around in the west when we're roaming the east either. Maybe we can drop some advance notice in your public channel when we're going to be in the west and try to break the cycle.


Aideron and Rapid probably see more Templis gangs. It is always interesting when a swarm of the Black Rise Gallente wander through our area.

From what I see, the majority of Bloc's kills are in Black Rise and against the Black Rise Gallente groups Bastard Cartel, Villore Accords and Bebop. In the past few days, I don't see any kills that indicate fleets of more than 5. Except for one kill on the 25th, which is when I got tired of skimming zkill stats. I have seen Bloc roams out our way, but I don't remember the date I last saw one to check the KB for.

To the Gallente looking for fights? Join Templis, we have more fights coming to us than we have the pilots for, we could go for some more bodies! Or, do something to shake things up besides demand your enemy provide you content. It probably makes them resent you and not want to play with you.

Operation Meatshield! GETUP and fight!
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#174 - 2014-11-27 19:42:17 UTC
Moglarr wrote:
Or, do something to shake things up besides demand your enemy provide you content. It probably makes them resent you and not want to play with you.

That's why we hang out around Rakapas, and why we've been going after folks like SCUM and SNUFFD. Give you all time to rebuild and regroup. You'll notice we've not tried to push any major systems lately.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#175 - 2014-11-27 19:54:36 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve.
I think this is a bit much. They used the rules to their advantage as much as they could. Exploit? Not really.
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#176 - 2014-11-27 22:24:11 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve.
I think this is a bit much. They used the rules to their advantage as much as they could. Exploit? Not really.


Ithink using mission bombers to cloak on a plex and have the timer still run is, if not an unintended feature (therefore an exploit), then it is bending the mechanicsso much to their favor that you can jump through the rule without having to cross over it.

Not only that, they seem to love bringing up the fact of how long they held WZ control by doing this.
Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#177 - 2014-11-28 00:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Epikurus
Moglarr wrote:
Epikurus wrote:

It's true that most of the action we're seeing is over in the east the last 5-6 weeks. We would love to see more closer to home but we rarely find significant gangs when we roam around west Black Rise and when we do it tends to be SCUM rather than GalMil. It's a vicious circle, I suppose as there is no motivation for Gal gangs to hang around in the west when we're roaming the east either. Maybe we can drop some advance notice in your public channel when we're going to be in the west and try to break the cycle.


...

From what I see, the majority of Bloc's kills are in Black Rise and against the Black Rise Gallente groups Bastard Cartel, Villore Accords and Bebop. In the past few days, I don't see any kills that indicate fleets of more than 5. Except for one kill on the 25th, which is when I got tired of skimming zkill stats. I have seen Bloc roams out our way, but I don't remember the date I last saw one to check the KB for.

...



I did say west Black Rise (meaning the 'western' portion as depicted on the warzone map on dotlan - http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Caldari_VS_Gallente), which is where we live. For the past two months every system in our top ten has been to the east of this area (https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98248053/top/year/2014/month/10/ https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98248053/top/year/2014/month/11/).

Quote:

In the past few days, I don't see any kills that indicate fleets of more than 5. Except for one kill on the 25th, which is when I got tired of skimming zkill stats.


A two day sample isn't really going to reveal much. However, you obviously haven't looked very hard even at that sample because I found a dozen or so from one page of the KB on the 26th flicking through at random. Most of the ewar kills in the Hik fight on Sunday also look something like this: https://zkillboard.com/kill/42593560/.

Edit - Looking again, I can only assume you were perusing someone else's killboard ...
Moglarr
Operation Meatshield
#178 - 2014-11-28 03:32:00 UTC
I'm willing to stand corrected, I meant no offense Epikurus. I quickly looked over the kills on the KB for Bloc, trying to find any signs of fleet kills so I was looking for kills that happened within a minute or two of each other. I quickly checked the 26th and the 25th (I only mention this because you linked a kill from the 24th) I was simply pointing out most of the kills I saw had less than 10 pilots, and none happened within a minute or two of each other. Which implies to me that there is a decent amount of small gang activity.

Operation Meatshield! GETUP and fight!
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#179 - 2014-11-28 04:07:04 UTC
Look fellas. What we can't afford is ANOTHER Caldari Civil War. Please direct your hatred towards members of my militia and not at each other. Big smile
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#180 - 2014-11-28 04:24:21 UTC
Oreb Wing wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve.
I think this is a bit much. They used the rules to their advantage as much as they could. Exploit? Not really.


Ithink using mission bombers to cloak on a plex and have the timer still run is, if not an unintended feature (therefore an exploit), then it is bending the mechanicsso much to their favor that you can jump through the rule without having to cross over it.

Not only that, they seem to love bringing up the fact of how long they held WZ control by doing this.



And you really believe that the Gallente didn't do that stuff as much as any other Militia?




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