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Ice price decline due to capital ship changes. Give ice more uses?
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Noragli
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-11-27 10:18:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragli
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-11-27 10:30:59 UTC
Noragli wrote:
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?


With the new year we should see a considerable reduction in supply, if you know what I mean.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-11-27 10:36:08 UTC
With the broadcasting changes, or for anyone with an IQ under 75 "Isbotter ban", there should be potentially less mega fleets mining ice in highsec. I expect this just means that regular players with only a few miners will clean up the ice belts instead, resulting in no net change.

If anything, once the speculation is over, yes, the demand for isotopes should start to wane, relative to supply, and drop the price.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#4 - 2014-11-27 10:41:20 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
With the broadcasting changes, or for anyone with an IQ under 75 "Isbotter ban", there should be potentially less mega fleets mining ice in highsec. I expect this just means that regular players with only a few miners will clean up the ice belts instead, resulting in no net change.

If anything, once the speculation is over, yes, the demand for isotopes should start to wane, relative to supply, and drop the price.

Don't forget the people that are running away from ice mining right now, since the prices are this low. Ice miners might even come out of it better than before. Just be patient, OP, 2015 is coming.

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Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-11-27 12:48:15 UTC
The solution to this problem is some nice white hot pulse beams of justice.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-11-27 13:44:27 UTC
No worries. With the mass exodus of multi boxing ice fleets the price will go up again in no time!

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LordHascouf
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-11-27 17:15:06 UTC
If it's not profitable move on to something else.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#8 - 2014-11-27 17:20:58 UTC
Noragli wrote:
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?


Absolutely not. Why artificially influence and thus undermine the credibility of the market? Free markets fluctuate, and they WORK.


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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-27 18:35:05 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
With the broadcasting changes, or for anyone with an IQ under 75 "Isbotter ban", there should be potentially less mega fleets mining ice in highsec. I expect this just means that regular players with only a few miners will clean up the ice belts instead, resulting in no net change.

If anything, once the speculation is over, yes, the demand for isotopes should start to wane, relative to supply, and drop the price.


The ice field should be cleaned up at least a bit slower than they are now thus generating less respawn per day so the total produced might drop a bit.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#10 - 2014-11-27 20:27:25 UTC
Well obviously the supply is greater then demand when jump fuel consumption was dropped to 1/3 over night. Blink
In case you haven't realized capitals use fuel per light year which was dropped from 14,6ly to 5ly with a wait in between.
Nou Mene
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#11 - 2014-11-27 20:31:36 UTC
Belts should be destructible. Then price would probably go up...
Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-11-27 21:03:47 UTC
I only have the first months consumption since the patch as a guide, my corp under the old system kept 2 months worth of fuel on hand. We now have 14.5 months of fuel sitting in out hangers. I can see ice price going up a bit, but no where close to its old levels
Josef Djugashvilis
#13 - 2014-11-27 22:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Single malt whisky with ice.

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Serene Repose
#14 - 2014-11-27 22:19:06 UTC
I have a better idea. Mine other things, unless of course the bots can't manage.

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-11-27 22:23:50 UTC
I think ccp was tired of isboxer fleets plexing and whatnot. You don't even know how many isboxer incursion fleets I noticed in one incursion.

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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#16 - 2014-11-28 08:43:27 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?


With the new year we should see a considerable reduction in supply, if you know what I mean.


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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#17 - 2014-11-28 09:06:28 UTC
the correct counter to over supply of ice is stop mining ice
Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#18 - 2014-11-28 09:41:08 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?


With the new year we should see a considerable reduction in supply, if you know what I mean.

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Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-11-28 12:30:14 UTC
Oh noes, makret forces are creating a drop in prices and Im not making insanly huge space moneez, CCP please fix so I make insane space moneez.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#20 - 2014-11-28 12:32:13 UTC
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