EVE General Discussion

Keep what you do with your alts to yourself and/or choose your words more carefully.

Hahaha, good catch.



It's baltec 2 isn't it....

At two months old he has already learned everything there is in this simple little game, why would he need extra protection?

The fact that they don't take punitive measures against suicide ganking for anything tells me it's not grief play in EVE Online. Thought you would have gotten a clue by now, Veers. Clearly I underestimated your capacity for ignorance.

Not all grief punishable by CCP. You can do things just to **** people off and be a jerk, and have it not be against the EULA. Running a margin trading scam to cheat a new player out of his first 500 mil is a great example. Ditto with blowing up empty ships for tears.

I do deal with it...by calling out the griefers like you on the forums. It's quite cathartic...and as usual your emotional control is failing. That you have a right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do, and make you any less of a bad person for doing it.

I can see this thread going in the usual direction.

But how about we fancy something else. Perhaps it's time for missions specifically designed to be messed with by other players. Like missions that are given to two players at once and in some manner as "who gets to something/there/from somewhere first" ?

Maybe even factionalize the matter. In highsec Caldari space for example you get missions that for the most part would entail fighting the Guristas. Well how about players who prefer to be on the side of Guristas getting the "same" mission from a Guristas agent in such manner that you have two NPC agents pitting players head to head?

Yeah I know what the complaints would be "Hurr durr bitter vets will bring in 50 remote reps hurr durr" but we have already seen missions exert arbitrary controls on the gates so the mechanics to ensure against the game giving one player a gangfest over another would not be a far departure from the present system.

Rather than shy away from the prospect of this thread, maybe it's time to incorporate the PVP element in it and allow pirate sympathizers have their fun too.


Just an idea that I'm sure will be shot down or ignored because spergers gonna sperg (and hate change).

So, serious question. Is it a conscious choice you make to verbally drag your arse across every interesting discussion on the forums? Or are you just compelled beyond your means of control to try and make every thread worth posting in about you?

You keep using the word griefer in the context of what is considered grief play in other games. EVE has a different set of standards for grief play. Even the wikipedia entry of 'griefer' has an addendum (almost all the way to the bottom) mentioning this.

I do not understand how being wrong can be cathartic, but to each their own. Keep on putting that extra chromosome to it's fullest use.

I like the idea of missions that intentionally pit player vs player. I think it is an avenue that could create some nice emergent game play.

There are a couple of things which make me uncomfortable with the concept:
1. The usual high sec is not safe enough crowd will push to remove players being able to enter other players "non pvp" missions.
2. Off grid boosters have concord "protection" in high sec.
3. If this concept attracts the interest of new players it needs very careful balancing. Something CCP has struggled with in the past. CCP do not need a system where I can farm 30-40 new players endlessly for ingame rewards.

But I've already explained why we're not griefers. By virtue of me being logged on right now, I've never been found guilty of griefing by the people that matter. Since you don't matter, you aren't actually calling out anything. You remind me of the angry street preacher with a megaphone claiming the end is nigh and we're all doomed sinners because we don't behave the way you think we should. It is simultaneously cringeworthy and pathetic.

For the record, I live in lowsec, and I'll guarantee you I've done more good for new players to this game in just the past week then you have done since you created your account. I will bet my substantial isk reserves on it, both liquid and otherwise, and biomass if I'm wrong. What would you bet?