EVE General Discussion

You pay for ISboxer and you don't know that advantages? Shame on you to think the rest are that naive.

1. you have 10 chars, so you mine for 10 plexes, takes you 10 days
2. you want 10 plexes for your PvP alt for next month - you mine for 10 days.
3. you want to replace a dread - mine for 4 days.

Now, if you are solo,

1. you want a PLEX, you mine for 10 days
2. you want 10 plexes for your PvP alt for next month. You mine for 100 days? oops
3. you want to replace a dread. mine for 40 days?

The PLEX cost is a fixed cost. But the profit above those fixed costs is multiplied by number of characters. It's the same for mining, as missioning, as ratting as Incursions. This is also why majority (all?) of PvE ISboxers pay with PLEXes for their alts.

There is a saying - don't **** on someone and say it's raining.

Here is where the argument gets really rage-y.

We had a threadnaught on skype about this too, and the isboxers say that they are paying for their accounts in plex, so losing them will take money out of ccp's hands. How so? Just because one person with 14 accounts rage quits because he cant click once for 14 toons now, CCP is losing out on all that MONEY. Sure, someone paid for that PLEX is his hard earned USD, or Euro or CDN or whatever goat trading they do in other parts of the world. But his money is already in CCP's hands. You as the ISBotter didn't pay one hairy butt nugget dime for that right to whine about money... Sure there will be market fluctuations, PLEX prices will fall (this time last year they were what? 650m?) but Empires will not fall. The sky will not fall.

Chicken Little ensues.

I pay for my accounts with game time purchased on my credit card, from money I make from having a real job, working 12-14 hours a day 5 days a week.


You ISbotters.... don't. I mean come on. Do the math, seriously, do it.

Macros are not banned. Speaking of 5 year olds, way to make your point.

LMAO see you have no clue how it works for me.

Broadcasts are no more so just take them out of the mix. This means moving forward i won't be:

1. broadcasting dock/jump/enter wormhole
2. broadcasting launch drones

Oh my!

No it doesn't pilot my ships for me ... squad warp and fleet regroup do that for me both of which are not isboxer features.

So my alts target faster than my main? No actually. Right now I have a fleet with HMLs and a drone fleet. My drones I assign to my main (right clicking each to assist because broadcasts don't work for this anyway). And my HML fleet i've always ctrl clicked them all because in most cases i split dps due to the size of my fleet.

Comparing aimbots to isboxer is another ******** comparison. I'm sorry I like to use multiple accounts to achieve better results. Nothing in the EULA against that. And while some of your blanket statements may apply to others and they may heavily rely on broadcasts I never have so the impact to me is minimal and it's a change I can live with. The cheers in this thread are entertaining because I would think the majority of good isboxers are probably thinking along the same lines as me. You use what works within the confines of the game and is in line with the EULA. They changed the rules and I'll adapt. I'm just pointing out that a lot of what you guys who don't use isboxers think you know is incorrect.

I'm trying to save the GM's from thousands of pointless petitions from the masses of isboxer haters by spreading a little knowledge on its use.

if you arent here to complain about isbotters core features you're wrong here, this thread is exactly about that.


no, because its exactly what it does. It does things faster than you would be doing without it, like aimbot targets faster than you ever would be.


once again, this thread is about isbotters input broadcast. If you dont use any of those features, whatsoever,
you are wasting your energy in a wrong thread.

how is this related to topic, idgi.
If you dont like how the game is played, using tools violating EULA is a safe way to get you removed from the game.


noone is talking about mass petitioning, just in cases where use of isbot or similar tool is obvious.


problem with bombers they can wipe out entire fleets. Being able to achieve something like that, which would otherwise require coordination of a decent group of people, by a single person, is way too OP and because of this I welcome this policy change effectively removing those isbotting bomber guys.

Damn I gotta unfollow this thread. It's blowing up my notifications

It's related, trust me. If you can't understand it, may I suggest you go back to middle school and learn critical thinking skills before attempting to play grown-up online. ISBoxer was never considered itself a violation of the EULA, and it still isn't. Stop thinking that everyone who uses ISBoxer is a bot.

Again, ISBoxer does not != botting. If you want to see bots, there was a video of a guy using a stealth bomber to go into deep Russian space and observed obvious bot behavior. Bots do not require input from a player to run. ISBoxer does.

I will be willing to bet you 1b isk that there will be fleet-welps to bomber wings in the future. You're trying to attribute rare instances of player error to ISBoxers. Please watch the video "Hello TEST, Meet Bombers Bar". You will see over 120 ships get destroyed by NON-BOXERS.

no its not considered a violation of EULA itself, but its core issues most people use it for is now a violation,
this is what this thread is about, for your information.


isbotter automates clients, its kind of a bot, who plays 20 clients replicating your main client actions. Kind of bot.
If you dont know what a bot is. its a piece of machinery which does things on its own, like isbotter controlling clients the player doesnt interact with directly.


lmao,
I never denied successful bombing runs performed by a group of people, show me the part where I blamed bombers by themselves. Like I saw 20 people ganking a freighter, yeah, this happens. SO WHAT? What is your argument here related to isbot which this thread is all about?

The correct version for what you wanted to say is either:

a) Isboxer does not equal botting.
b) Isboxer != botting.

Sry.. could not resist :).