EVE General Discussion

I'd like to think that, but I can't, because in my eyes, it's highly unlikely that they were merely trying to nerf incursion/wormhole income. If they wanted to do that, then they could just adjust incursions and wormholes. Sure, some people would complain, but no major shift would take place. However, they've nerfed high-sec pvp so much in the past few years that they're running out of ways to nerf things like suicide-ganking without having the community question whether they're still willing to keep EVE a harsh universe, so they're resorting to underhanded tactics like this in order to sneak by changes while riding a wave of populist support. Much like the way governments attach unpopular bills to necessary ones, so no one will notice. That's my take on this, at least.


Once again, what's the difference between pressing one key and having four modules activate, or using all of the non-thumb fingers on my hand to press F1-F4 simultaneously? It's almost as if you're saying that hitting more than one key at the same time is equivalent to automation.

Well looks like CCP are ruining the game for a good amount of people. Now before all the troll's come out and strart saying that this is another botters/boxers tears what ever you want to call it. it's not! For the simple fact that I will continue to use Isboxer. But just in a different way.

What I ask is that everyone who is here should at least try it before it's mouse repeat function is banned and you would see why people use it. Now my story with it is for running four characters in W-space. I have ran 12man incursion fleets before I've used it to make a lot of isk.

Now you are probably asking why is he even bothering posting. The point of this is simple ISBOXER is a tool to add content. People who use it myself included feel that eve is starting to die. I've played for 8 years I've done most things. Using/multi boxing just adds an extra level of excitement/diffulcty to the game. It allows you to do things different adding video feeds and controlling Clients graphics demandsv all of which isn't possible without it.

What's the point in having more than 3/4 accounts if you can't play them all. At the same time. Now here's to my next point.....

Now I'd say a good 80% of the people that play eve use a mouse/ keyboard which is able to either make a key bind(pressing one button on a mouse which equates to you pressing two or three buttons simultaniously on the key board) or a pressing one button and it activates f1-f8 for instance if you were smart bombing apposed today pressing it manually.

What's the difference???????

Now yes I use ISBOXER but I dont understand why people have an issue with it.. What is it doing that's so wrong that it effects the game. And all the people that are moaning about it clearly haven't. For the people that haven the mouse repeat function is only ever active for attract 10% of the time you are actually using ISBOXER

So the honest outcome from this is I will still be using it...... So feel free to troll run locator agents to try and tank me... All of which adds content to the game which is honestly what's missing.

Well, if you can pull it off and really make that much, why not I guess =P

It takes some degree of intelligence to train up multiple accounts to effectively run Skiffs/stealth bombers/incursion ships, and then set up multi-boxing software to control them all. It puzzles me that some of these people are then having difficulty understanding this new update and the difference between what they are doing and the in-game Fleet Warp feature.

@ all multiboxers:

If you're leaving EVE then...

1. carry all your stuff to a tradehub near you
2. sell everything
3. buy as much plex as you can
4. donate plex to "CCPplexforgood"
5. don't let the door hit your bot on the way out
6. have a nice day :)

Thanks CCP, best change ever.

The only group being "targeted" is botters. This only changes ganking for those that can't or won't work with others or don't know how to do it right and have to resort to blob mentality for their lulz. Gankers that use botting software to do their deed are no better than losers who user roofies to drug women to get into their pants. Same kind of person, same mental issues.

Isboxer is used in ganking but as far as I can tell it's really rare. The Code. freighter ganking kills I see are almost always a group of individual players, some with multiple chars as it's easy to push F1 a few tiimes.

Miner ganking, well, Skiff ganking might be easier with multiboxing software but for most targets a few catalysts or even just one will do just fine. Fleetwarp and a few F1 pushes, that requires no multiboxing software really...

Being at the helm of your PC and controlling input to multiple accounts at the same time and watching an episode of Jersey Shore in another room while your computer magically puts ore into your hangar and NPC bounties into your wallet are two different things. Even if CCP decides that the former shouldn't be allowed, which they have the right to do, it's still not botting. Yours is a tired, weak, old argument without any merit.

By the way, CCP doesn't target botters. I still see the same ones mining today that I've reported years ago.

they are not targetting suicide ganking specifically but all activities involving isbotter, because the balance was getting out of whack completely. If you multibox do it on yourself, not some 3rd party automating tool reducing your workload and chances to **** up. Thats the whole intention of policy change and its totally right.

Suicide-ganking is the only new activity being targeted by these rules. Mining and ratting, the two activities that benefit from ISBoxer, were already being illegally botted most of the time when ISBoxer was in the picture. Since botting is illegal (and very much punishable), introducing this change would be meaningless unless suicide-ganking (and fringe cases like multi-bombing) are being targeted.