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minmatar a meager 3rd rate power
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Will Ambraelle
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-11-26 01:13:25 UTC
I request the the state and empire to get rid of this third rate power the minmatar republic.
Useless and only allowed to stay because of their gallente counterparts are shielding them from their truth fate for now.
Dani Dusette
Division 13
#2 - 2014-11-26 01:20:43 UTC
Pretty sure they've been trying to do exactly that for quite some time, sir.

If you feel so strongly why not join the war effort yourself?

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Will Ambraelle
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-11-26 01:26:32 UTC
Dani Dusette wrote:
Pretty sure they've been trying to do exactly that for quite some time, sir.

If you feel so strongly why not join the war effort yourself?



I've been rallying capsulers assistance and have grown large in skilled capsulers
I am just requesting the state and empire to do less talk and do more action, a full scale invasion would be sound.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#4 - 2014-11-26 01:29:11 UTC
The State and Empire are both welcome to make the attempt. I doubt they'd enjoy the sight of the result. Nothing fosters UNITY more than enemies of all. Not that I expect the State to ever be stupid enough to allow their "ally" to tip the balance to the point where they didn't need each other.
Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2014-11-26 01:33:51 UTC
Will Ambraelle wrote:
Dani Dusette wrote:
Pretty sure they've been trying to do exactly that for quite some time, sir.

If you feel so strongly why not join the war effort yourself?



I've been rallying capsulers assistance and have grown large in skilled capsulers
I am just requesting the state and empire to do less talk and do more action, a full scale invasion would be sound.


Repeating the mistakes of the past only serves to suggest we have not learned from them.

In many respects I suggest the Empire is a different place, with differing views on the subject of the Matari insurgency, one that is wiser and more cautious.

War is only one means of conversion, many other exist. Until unity is achieved I supposed it is the duty of the 24th Crusade to safeguard the Empire's borders.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#6 - 2014-11-26 01:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
So long as the Republic is permitted to remain as a member of CONCORD there will be no full scale invasions. We are all member states of CONCORD and are bound to interstellar treaties.

If you want the Republic conquered, then it's not the Empire or the State you have to convince. You have to go to the CONCORD Assembly and convince them to permit it. And seeing as CONCORD have done nothing to punish the Republic (or other transgressors) despite repeated violations of CONCORD treaties--including a direct assault on Yulai--I wouldn't expect much results.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2014-11-26 01:43:36 UTC
Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#8 - 2014-11-26 02:31:24 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks.


The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is this:

The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13 wrote:

I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-26 03:34:38 UTC
Let's see, on the one hand there's an inventive and vibrant culture whose ships are competitive with the State's best despite running off older technology whose technical experience, expertise and sheer guile that was hard-won in the theatre of a vicious war for survival that could prove to be an excellent investment and trading opportunity for the Caldari.

And on the other hand we have helping destroy that culture.

What exactly is in it for us?

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Author of The Deathworlders
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#10 - 2014-11-26 03:38:22 UTC
Well, hello to you too, neighbor. Did our Fedo **** on your lawn perchance?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#11 - 2014-11-26 03:43:33 UTC
Stitcher wrote:

What exactly is in it for us?

Death, property damage, death, resourse consumption, death, The loss of potental allys, and death.... on all sides.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Kellie Dusette
Division 13
#12 - 2014-11-26 03:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Kellie Dusette
Many much hate for ears.

Much lovely respect all pilot fight any side battle, but wonder for me how not all get along for just live happy and accept?

Make for better of all people's types, share most beautiful thing from cultures. I know not easy for make but should try.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2014-11-26 06:18:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Nauplius wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks.


The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is ...


Right, we all get why you guys would want to. Why would the State?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Anslo
Scope Works
#14 - 2014-11-26 06:49:46 UTC
Haha wat

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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#15 - 2014-11-26 07:10:03 UTC
Ignoring the obvious political issues, the Republic Fleet is specialized towards and known for fast paced guerilla warfare, and the Caldari Navy is specialized towards and known for slow but extremely effective defensive tactics. Not really... Designed for eachother, so to speak.

The State invading the Republic would be rather like a bear chasing a hornet. Vaguely embarassing for everyone involved, and with little actually getting done. It would probably be a rare event for anyone to even force an engagement.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-11-26 07:24:55 UTC
The creation of the Republic and allowing it to join the CONCORD was a mistake in the first place.
I guess it must be fixed by applying some force.

But for this to happen, first the Federation must be destroyed. And then the Republic will collapse either by itself, or will be crushed by the Imperial forces.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Karynn Denton
Astrometrica
#17 - 2014-11-26 08:03:55 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
And seeing as CONCORD have done nothing to punish the Republic (or other transgressors) despite repeated violations of CONCORD treaties--including a direct assault on Yulai--I wouldn't expect much results.


My people's participation in the glorious assault of Yulai reduced to "other transgressors"... in brackets... so typical.

We are rarely credited for the part we played, even by the Republic itself, who are all too keen to laud their own Fleet up for it.

It's no wonder it's so hard to find love for the Republic in the caravans.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#18 - 2014-11-26 08:08:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Actually I consider the Thukker included with the Republic, in that statement. And even if they weren't, as far as I am aware the Thukker were never part of CONCORD prior to their joining the Republic and so wouldn't have been subject to its policies or protections.

My 'others' comment refers to similar violations by other, non-Matari CONCORD signatories, who have likewise not received any punishment for their illegal conduct.
Karynn Denton
Astrometrica
#19 - 2014-11-26 08:17:41 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Actually I consider the Thukker part of the Republic, in that statement. And even if they weren't, as far as I am aware the Thukker were never part of CONCORD prior to their joining the Republic and so wouldn't have been subject to its policies.


The Thukker are part of the Republic in name only. They have absolutely no jurisdiction over us, legal or otherwise.

It is because we retain our independence that we are not signatories to CONCORD; in that respect, you are correct.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#20 - 2014-11-26 12:25:36 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks.


The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is ...


Right, we all get why you guys would want to. Why would the State?


You said "We" in your previous post, Pieter.

You're in the Amarrian militia.

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