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Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#541 - 2014-11-25 21:39:19 UTC
Next it will be implants restored on death, then finally you'll get your ship restored back in the hanger.

There'll be no point undocking in it as won't be able to do your enemies any harm.

If there's no loss there's no game.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#542 - 2014-11-25 21:39:35 UTC
Lil' Brudder Too wrote:
Following the logic of most of this thread....

It is annoying and painful to have to train all these skills to fly T2 ships...lets just delete the skill requirements for all T2 ships/modules, after all, that's the only way to make it fair for the new players who don't have as many skill-points as the old players.

Other than you know, faulty logic on your part, or a deliberate straw-man.
One is an investment to gain access to something.
The other is an ongoing make-work cost that punishes you for taking risks (Especially in Null & WH's where podding is common). And that punishment grows with the age of your account when account age has nothing to do with income.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#543 - 2014-11-25 21:44:43 UTC
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Next it will be implants restored on death, then finally you'll get your ship restored back in the hanger.

There'll be no point undocking in it as won't be able to do your enemies any harm.

If there's no loss there's no game.


Roll Clearly that's the next logical step.
Arune Malieka
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#544 - 2014-11-25 22:10:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Arune Malieka
Next they'll remove explosions because its too graphic.

In fact they'll remove any rendering what so ever because being shot by guns is too scary.

Then they'll remove the spread sheets because thats too complicated.

Then they'll remove gates and make it so that in order to go from one system to the next you just type in the name and teleport, keeping the game gank free.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#545 - 2014-11-25 22:18:46 UTC
Sometimes hyperbole reaches a critical point where it becomes difficult to tell if it has transitioned to satire.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#546 - 2014-11-25 23:06:09 UTC
Arune Malieka wrote:
Next they'll remove explosions because its too graphic.

In fact they'll remove any rendering what so ever because being shot by guns is too scary.

Then they'll remove the spread sheets because thats too complicated.

Then they'll remove gates and make it so that in order to go from one system to the next you just type in the name and teleport, keeping the game gank free.

Hopefully they'll remove slippery slopes first, since so many people tend to fall for them.
Arune Malieka
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#547 - 2014-11-25 23:45:30 UTC
Why would they remove slippy, he's my favorite character in this game.

This is star fox right? Thats what OP is saying its turning into.
Rez Valintine
The Virus Vault
#548 - 2014-11-26 00:12:22 UTC
I wish there was an unlike button. Some of you are dense.

I will not cry over the loss of clones; unless they are jump clones.
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#549 - 2014-11-26 17:09:29 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Next it will be implants restored on death, then finally you'll get your ship restored back in the hanger.

There'll be no point undocking in it as won't be able to do your enemies any harm.

If there's no loss there's no game.


Roll Clearly that's the next logical step.


No. The next logical step in the wowification of Eve is the making of battle zones....

Oh wait they already did -> Thera.

Nerf death and add a zone for instant pvp - eve becomes more like wow every day.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#550 - 2014-11-26 17:17:54 UTC
So for this change, i begged ccp for it.
- to punish older players with higher costs to play thier game is silly
- to take away cheap fun pvp with 70 mill clone cost for a cruiser loss is silly
- sp hit isnt needed to punish esepcially new players

This is not the end, its a first quick fix. Ships without fittings might be a clone wihtout implant or other attributes in the future

+ 1 for ccp again in a year with most changes ever!
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#551 - 2014-11-26 17:59:08 UTC
corebloodbrothers wrote:
So for this change, i begged ccp for it.
- to punish older players with higher costs to play thier game is silly
- to take away cheap fun pvp with 70 mill clone cost for a cruiser loss is silly
- sp hit isnt needed to punish esepcially new players

This is not the end, its a first quick fix. Ships without fittings might be a clone wihtout implant or other attributes in the future

+ 1 for ccp again in a year with most changes ever!


Making old players pay so that there is balance b/t older and new players is solid.

OTH Pvp without consequences is silly.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#552 - 2014-11-26 18:11:26 UTC
corebloodbrothers wrote:
So for this change, i begged ccp for it.
- to punish older players with higher costs to play thier game is silly
- to take away cheap fun pvp with 70 mill clone cost for a cruiser loss is silly
- sp hit isnt needed to punish esepcially new players

This is not the end, its a first quick fix. Ships without fittings might be a clone wihtout implant or other attributes in the future

+ 1 for ccp again in a year with most changes ever!


Thank you for injecting a little sense and sensibility, unlike the morons in this thread illustrating to everyone the Sunk Cost Fallacy in action.

"I suffered, so EVERYONE must suffer, forever!"

**** off.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#553 - 2014-11-26 18:13:17 UTC
corebloodbrothers wrote:
So for this change, i begged ccp for it.
- to punish older players with higher costs to play thier game is silly
- to take away cheap fun pvp with 70 mill clone cost for a cruiser loss is silly
- sp hit isnt needed to punish esepcially new players

This is not the end, its a first quick fix. Ships without fittings might be a clone wihtout implant or other attributes in the future

+ 1 for ccp again in a year with most changes ever!


It's a good change and thank you for it.

I'm really interested in what is in store for clones now in the future with that little tidbit of information.

-k8

My Fanclub
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#554 - 2014-11-26 20:36:49 UTC
Not supported.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#555 - 2014-11-26 21:19:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
corebloodbrothers wrote:
So for this change, i begged ccp for it.
- to punish older players with higher costs to play thier game is silly
- to take away cheap fun pvp with 70 mill clone cost for a cruiser loss is silly
- sp hit isnt needed to punish esepcially new players

This is not the end, its a first quick fix. Ships without fittings might be a clone wihtout implant or other attributes in the future

+ 1 for ccp again in a year with most changes ever!


Making old players pay so that there is balance b/t older and new players is solid.

OTH Pvp without consequences is silly.
Clone costs brought no parity in any way between older and newer players. The gulf of experience and performance an older player typically has was not compensated in any way. The only thing clone cost could potentially have done was give reason for older characters to not fight certain fights, which just meant more alt proliferation to get around that, nullifying any gain.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#556 - 2014-11-26 21:40:03 UTC
Arune Malieka wrote:
Why would they remove slippy, he's my favorite character in this game.

This is star fox right? Thats what OP is saying its turning into.


Damn frog is just the worst pilot.
Liz Laser
Blood Tribe Inc
#557 - 2014-12-13 00:47:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Liz Laser
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Liz Laser wrote:
No one is whining, but you. I'm perfectly content to let the developers develop their game. You're the one whining that they're doing it wrong.


So it's your contention that CCP can do no wrong or make no mistakes?


Not at all. I'm objecting to calling people whiners when they aren't the ones whining.

I've had less than positive things to say about the devs changes at times.

Though I will say, there's a new sheriff in town, and her changes brought me back to the game and I'm willing to give the devs the benefit of the doubt for a while.

I mean, admit it, Phoebe rocks!

No more hot drops on a lone cruiser just because you can. :-)

(and sorry for the 3 week delay in replying).
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#558 - 2014-12-13 00:50:52 UTC
Holy thread necro batman

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