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Where are the pirates?
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Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
Good Sax
#21 - 2014-11-25 22:39:58 UTC
Its all gone to shite.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-11-26 00:02:41 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
We're still here.

It's just getting almost impossibly hard to actually be a pirate anymore.

*gazes longingly at Elite Dangerous*

They have a pirate package , you know......

Oh, and the Beta is officially over. It releases next month. Costs $50 USD.

*starts pricing joysticks*



Hmmm....not really so many substantial nerfs to lowsec piracy. ED looks kinda lame so far...


Its not so much nerfs to piracy as it is buffs to everything else. Pirates prey on shipping and resource gatherers. Sabriz hit the bullseye.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#23 - 2014-11-26 02:37:20 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
I'd love to see some kind of "pirate code of conduct" so that the next time a freighter, orca, or blingy battleship gets caught, they can pay the ransom and know that their ship will be spared. Given the current folks playing the game, I'm not very confident.
The Pirate Code

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-11-26 05:03:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
To be honest...

For the past couple of months I have been asking myself that same question. As it stands now.

There are pirates and bloody good ones. To be honest I would love to join the tuskers.

I don't even get excited anymore in my hisec wars when 8 -15 people come to engage me. I undock shoot and there is no more of that heart pumping feeling. I know what to expect from myself and what the outcome is going to be based on what they are flying and how they are flying it.

When all of my RL maneuvers are complete I am actually contemplating moving to low and just roam the waste lands and pod back to station when I loose my ship. It is the natural progression and something I should have done a long time ago since low and null is where I started with my PVP.

The Pirate Story thread needs to be rejuvenated.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#25 - 2014-11-26 05:34:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
I'd love to see some kind of "pirate code of conduct" so that the next time a freighter, orca, or blingy battleship gets caught, they can pay the ransom and know that their ship will be spared. Given the current folks playing the game, I'm not very confident.
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Famine Aligher'ri
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#26 - 2014-11-26 05:44:49 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


Look, I'm a big fan of the lowsec pirates who honor ransoms...I think it adds a very cool element to lowsec. The problem is that the folks who lie, take the ransom, and then blow the ship up anyways ruin it for everyone. Since the victim can't rely on ransoms, he won't pay, and everyone comes out behind.

I'd love to see some kind of "pirate code of conduct" so that the next time a freighter, orca, or blingy battleship gets caught, they can pay the ransom and know that their ship will be spared. Given the current folks playing the game, I'm not very confident.



If pirates played fair, then they likely wouldn't be pirates.

I mean you have to get serious.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#27 - 2014-11-26 07:26:46 UTC
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Look, I'm a big fan of the lowsec pirates who honor ransoms...I think it adds a very cool element to lowsec. The problem is that the folks who lie, take the ransom, and then blow the ship up anyways ruin it for everyone. Since the victim can't rely on ransoms, he won't pay, and everyone comes out behind.

I'd love to see some kind of "pirate code of conduct" so that the next time a freighter, orca, or blingy battleship gets caught, they can pay the ransom and know that their ship will be spared. Given the current folks playing the game, I'm not very confident.



If pirates played fair, then they likely wouldn't be pirates.

I mean you have to get serious.


You miss the point...both the pirate and the prey would prefer a ransom to needless destruction. What they lack is a mechanism to force both sides to effectuate their long term desires. Game Theory. Prisoners Dilemma. Nash Equilibrium.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#28 - 2014-11-26 10:50:45 UTC
I always honour ransoms except in the most extreme of circumstances (i.e. an out of game issue is the reason I'm attacking the person, such as them posting racist filth in local chat; anyone that does that is getting podded after paying the ransom).

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#29 - 2014-11-26 13:04:21 UTC
I always honor ransoms except, of course, in the case of Veers, who I would gleefully pod and then put his frozen corpse up for auction.

I expect I could probably clear at least 500 million for it.....

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2014-11-26 13:28:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
To be honest I wouldn't sell such a thing were I ever to acquire it. It's not a money thing, it's something else. The smile on my face whenever I saw it sitting in my item hangar isn't something that could be bartered away.

And to be topical, WHEN I offer ransoms I always honor them, as should any member of Lords. I have in the past, and will in the future. Granted, just being on the brink of death does not ensure a ransom will be forthcoming, sometimes I have faith that whatever is going to fall out of the pinata is worth far more than what the victim is willing to pay.

Sometimes the ransom convo is worth as much if not more than the ISK involved to be honest. I ransomed off some guy's damsel a month or two back for a paltry sum, but the verbal exchange was what really made it worthwhile.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#31 - 2014-11-26 15:38:36 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
I always honor ransoms except, of course, in the case of Veers, who I would gleefully pod and then put his frozen corpse up for auction.

I expect I could probably clear at least 500 million for it.....


Do it Mikee!! Try the elite PvP tactic of wardeccing me like our buddy max did. Just don't send me a profanity laced Evemail after losing, please. Thanks!
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-11-26 21:11:48 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
I'd love to see some kind of "pirate code of conduct" so that the next time a freighter, orca, or blingy battleship gets caught, they can pay the ransom and know that their ship will be spared. Given the current folks playing the game, I'm not very confident.
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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-11-26 22:00:48 UTC
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:
I just got back in the game from a sleep.

Where are all the pirates? Chime in already. Crime & Punishment is once again turning into a merc haven.


They've been nerfed away by CCP.

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Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2014-11-27 11:30:07 UTC
good pirate stories can be found in this link https://evechatter.com/t/R1DER/index.php/topic,21524.0.html

Think you have to register with our forums first though.

These forums are too constrictive for most juicy tales.
Jake Devlin
F.U.N. Inc.
The Ancients.
#35 - 2014-11-27 12:03:42 UTC
People like to say that EvE is a game in which reputation is important. This is a two way street. If you as a victim of piracy don't gamble on paying a ransom you will never find out if a pirate is 'honourable' or not. Equally if you as a pirate never offer a ransom you can never gain a reputation for honouring them. the only thing needed for this to change is for a few corps to make it a thing that they do and build it into their culture.

Be the change you want to see etc etc.

That said no one ever paid me ransoms back in 2005/6 when I was doing the outlaw pirate thing. It has always been hard to make ransoms work.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#36 - 2014-11-27 13:03:10 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Do it Mikee!! Try the elite PvP tactic of wardeccing me like our buddy max did. Just don't send me a profanity laced Evemail after losing, please. Thanks!



Wardec?

What is this madness you speak of?

*lurks in lowsec*

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#37 - 2014-11-27 13:03:49 UTC
I've always found the whole ransom notion to be something that is uniquely EVE. I used to abhor pirates way back in my 'I don't understand EVE' days. After doing some extensive reading upon return from my second ragequit I suddenly realized that they were actually having a hell of a lot more fun than I was. My dislike dried up and turned to envy.
Nowadays, I do occasionally offer ransoms to players I've got pinned down. When I do, I honor them. Likewise if someone else has me under the gun and makes the offer, I'm likely to pay a reasonable ransom and see where it goes. A pirate has to make a living somehow.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Dabasir
Ho 229
#38 - 2014-11-27 17:06:14 UTC
WOW the replies to this question are remarkably useless... even for a Crime & Punishment thread! Shocked

So to answer your question based on my experience Tama has pirates, and by pirates I of course mean gate camp mobbers. Those 8+ member gate camps, primarily Snuff and Candy Ballz, happen pretty much all the time with occasional 1-2 hour breaks between 1700 and 0200 eve time. If anyone is wanting intel on the Tama gates feel free to save me to your contacts and if I'm on line I'd be happy to pass on a status report. Lol

I hope this information was of help to you and I wish everyone a good day.
Anslo
Scope Works
#39 - 2014-11-27 17:29:18 UTC
Were around. We just don't post here anymore, as we are not nerds.

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-11-28 00:26:03 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Game Theory


That explains a lot about why you are so often wrong.