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Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics - Loan Service

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#1 - 2014-11-21 23:01:08 UTC  |  Edited by: goodlady Smith
Not.e: this is closed till the new year as i focus on some other markets

Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics - Loan Service

500M/1B Loans

As part of our support services we are offering up to 1B loans for up to 30 days or short term loans for 1 week

Interest rate: 15% monthly


Collateral Required – 1.2 x value of loan

How to obtain a loan


Create a contract to Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics with a minimum of 1.2x value of loan as collateral (Jita buy price).

Use Evepraisal: http://evepraisal.com/

Setting up your contract:

Contract Creation Steps –

Select Contract Type (1/4)
Contract Type: Item Exchange
Availability: Private
Name: Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics

Pick Items (2/4)
Select Items

Select Options (3/4)
I will pay: 0.0
I will receive: [value up to 1b]
Expiration: 3 days
Description:

How to repay a loan:
Send repayment 550000000/1100000000 to Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics
We will then contract the items used as collateral

Or

Contract return of the items as follows:

Contract Creation Steps –

Select Contract Type (1/4)
Contract Type: Item Exchange
Availability: Private
Name: Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics

Pick Items (2/4)
Select Items

Select Options (3/4)
I will pay: [1.2x value of collateral]
I will receive: 0.0
Expiration: 3 days
Description:

Within description ensure that period is defined I.e weekly or monthly loan

Always ensure that the character taking the loan makes the repayment!!!

Conditions:
Contracted Items value must be at least 1.2x value of loan.

Repayments must be made within the loan period or the Contracted Items will be sold.

All loans are at the sole discretion of Deep space Industry Markets and Logistics

Items used as collateral must be located within NPC stations within High Sec or Low Sec.
If using ships as collateral rigs do not count towards the value of the collateral

Contact extension beyond original term incurs an admin fee and is reviewed on a case by case basis.

We do not accept:
T2/Faction damaged/used (non-stackable) Crystals

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#2 - 2014-11-21 23:01:18 UTC  |  Edited by: goodlady Smith
Updated: Interest rate: 10%
Updated taking multi week loans

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#3 - 2014-11-21 23:06:02 UTC
Reserved

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#4 - 2014-11-22 19:42:44 UTC
Granting Loans

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#5 - 2014-11-24 00:42:30 UTC
Maybe we can make your day, starting out in station trading or need to move up to a new ship our loans can help you

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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#6 - 2014-11-24 19:41:49 UTC
Moved to Market Discussions.

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#7 - 2014-11-24 22:46:07 UTC
Now in a new section of the forums Lol
Looking for a small start but dont want to buy plex this may be the way for you

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Emo Bittervet
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-11-24 23:44:04 UTC
so the interest is 40% on the loan total... thats a bit harsh even for MD, anyone can ask for say a billion isk loan with collateral and a 10/20% interest on the principle over a month, also whats to stop you from collecting all the over principle collateral for a month then disappearing? considering the model you are using, you would make more ( a billion isk loan would net you 1.4bill and your asking for 1.5 in collateral). also do you take blueprints? because why would we tak out a loan that costs us either near a plex or more than a plex when we have that amount in collateral.
goodlady Smith wrote:
Now in a new section of the forums Lol
Looking for a small start but dont want to buy plex this may be the way for you


i would suggest tweaking the model a bit so that people can actually trust it enough to use it.Attention its not even a smart move taking out a loan for a billion and giving 1.5 billion in collateral.Attention
goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#9 - 2014-11-25 00:15:04 UTC
Hi Emo,

I'm not sure on a couple of points so will respond quickly here and if you have more questions grab me in game.

Interest is 10% not 40% - I'm expecting most people will pay it back within a week, you can roll it if you like - I would pref people roll the loan rather then default! I.e I'm providing options

150% collateral might sound a bit steep but I don't want your items if I can avoid it.
Why would I take your items and run? Doesn't sound like much of a plan I give up 1 bill to make (after hauling and sales a couple of 00 mil?)

I would consider blue prints

*might make it 20% for a month to be a bit more inline with the market.

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#10 - 2014-11-25 00:57:39 UTC
Your terms are really bad, check out some other completed loans here in MD.
Emo Bittervet
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-11-25 01:09:59 UTC
goodlady Smith wrote:


I'm not sure on a couple of points so will respond quickly here and if you have more questions grab me in game.

Interest is 10% not 40% - I'm expecting most people will pay it back within a week, you can roll it if you like - I would pref people roll the loan rather then default! I.e I'm providing options

-the interest for a month would total 40%, i dont think i have ever seen a MD loan on the forum that charges per week, this is what im getting at. the loans offered are almost always in month increments and generally have an interest rate of 10-30% interest on the principle for the month. ie 1billion for one month with 20% interest. person pays 1.2billion at end of set month.

goodlady Smith wrote:
150% collateral might sound a bit steep but I don't want your items if I can avoid it.
Why would I take your items and run? Doesn't sound like much of a plan I give up 1 bill to make (after hauling and sales a couple of 00 mil?)

-as for this part, because your collateral rate is unreasonably high, i immediately calculated how much you would make keeping this up for a month and disappearing. for each billion, you would get 1.5 billion in collat, and 300 million for 3 weeks of interest on your rate. therefore you would stad to make 800 million from each loan you give and lets say you get 5 withen the first week, thats a pretty decent little pile of cash for little work. Attention this is why people dont charge per week on their loans and also dont ask for more collateral than the loan itself, although on that point, i feel it would be fair to ask for 1.2billion in collateral as this offsets some risk, but asking for anymore will just get people thinking your a scammer.

nothing against you, you just need to rework the model as these points were the first things to spring into my head reading it and it will be the same for others out there and will cause you to lose business.
goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#12 - 2014-11-25 01:17:33 UTC
Hi Emo,

These are fair points, will rework the model tonight so it reflects a 20% interest (midway between the 10% and 30%)
Will also drop the collateral to 1.2.

Thank you again for your input and feedback.

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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#13 - 2014-11-25 03:12:57 UTC
The going rate for a fully collateralized loan is about 2-5% monthly.

10-15% is the average rate for uncollateralized loans.

These rates are typically set by the borrow by posting their own loan requests. When coming to MD to announce a loan service, you should attempt to be competitive with these facts, making it easy for debtors to get their loan, at comparative rates to those they could achieve on their own. But most importantly, I think a loan service, here at MD, is only needed if it can offer massive loans without balance caps. A nobody pilot can come to MD and request a fully collateralized loan at 2% for even 10bil, and get it filled quickly with the right collateral and 3rd party holder.

As a loan service; you should cater to the unreachable loan requests; the low low low interest rates, the high balances, and the extremely trust worthy collateral holding of extremely rare limited edition items. Otherwise, the best advice is to just scan MD and wait for loan requests you find favorable and fill them quickly before others do.
Cista2
EVE Museum
#14 - 2014-11-25 14:56:20 UTC
Matchmaker Cista stepping up to the task: all yours.
May you both live in prosperity.

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#15 - 2014-11-25 23:25:06 UTC
Cista2 wrote:
Matchmaker Cista stepping up to the task: all yours.
May you both live in prosperity.


Thanks Cista2

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