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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#421 - 2014-11-25 18:36:10 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Astroyka wrote:
I think this is great news for EvE as a whole. I really don't think the unsubs will hit CCP that hard since most of the multiboxers were probably "paying" for their accounts with PLEX anyway.

Stop being dumb. It irritates me the amount of people here who still seem to have no clue what PLEX does or how it works.


Enlighten me, great one.

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Beatrice Ushiromiya
Yukkuri Pharmaceuticals
#422 - 2014-11-25 18:36:12 UTC
CCP, I'm pretty sure you have the number of active multiboxing accounts. Could you share it with us for science?
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#423 - 2014-11-25 18:36:36 UTC
So, because broadcasting is being banned as of 01 Jan 2015, does that mean on 01 Jan 2015, cloaks will be reverted again to not decloaking each other while cloaked since the main reason this was changed back was to nerf broadcasting bombers together?

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flakeys
Doomheim
#424 - 2014-11-25 18:36:38 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
DragonHelm III wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Ama Scelesta wrote:
RIP ISBoxer?


ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not.

For god's sake CCP stop all the bluster and give a straight answer

ISBOXER banned or not? It just needs a yes or no

All this crap about terms like Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing mean squat to me as I have no idea what they are.


For these things, yes it is banned.

Quote:

This includes, but isn’t limited to:

• Activation and control of ships and modules
• Navigation and movement within the EVE universe
• Movement of assets and items within the EVE universe
• Interaction with other characters


It seemed pretty clear to me.



No it ain't it states ''but isn't limited to'' wich is CCP slang for 'we keep something vague up our sleeves as usuall'''.

I never used ISBOXER and i'm glad they remove it , however they can quite easily just state it is not allowed at all period.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#425 - 2014-11-25 18:37:27 UTC
Zishy Linaris wrote:
goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens


Stuff. Yours. Geif.

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#426 - 2014-11-25 18:37:27 UTC
Astroyka wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Astroyka wrote:
I think this is great news for EvE as a whole. I really don't think the unsubs will hit CCP that hard since most of the multiboxers were probably "paying" for their accounts with PLEX anyway.

Stop being dumb. It irritates me the amount of people here who still seem to have no clue what PLEX does or how it works.


Enlighten me, great one.

Here's a hint:
PLEX does not take subscription money away from CCP.
Amely Miles
Second Exile
#427 - 2014-11-25 18:37:43 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:

It sounds like I can still use it for what i've always used it for: window management.
At most I've run 4 accounts with isboxer managing all my windows. In very very rare occasions I've used it to repeat, but that was a long time ago when naga ratting was a thing. I've mainly used it to manage windows when fcing or scouting.


there are other programs that allow for window management such as this one created by a eve player
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5241742#post5241742

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#428 - 2014-11-25 18:37:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
CCP, could we PLEASE get a definition of "broadcasting" and "multiplexing" added to the notice.

I can only guess, and I'm not sure what is meant by the latter.

Example:
* "Broadcasting" = sending the same input event (e.g. keyboard keystroke or mouse movement / click) to multiple clients.
* "Multiplexing" = ? [I have no idea in this context.]

Keep in mind that I'm an embedded realtime operating system developer with decades of technical experience, and even I am unclear on what it meant.

Thank you.


EDIT: Made "broadcasting" more generalized to any input event.
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#429 - 2014-11-25 18:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: TheMercenaryKing
And here I was about to give CCP more of my money by reactiving a few accounts.

There has never been a problem with ISBoxing and input multiplication. It is people who do not want to put the effort in to buy plexs or spend money, It it not the boxers fault. People did not understand that someone is still making the commands at the PC to mine or smart bomb or whatever.

Well, mineral prices are going to shoot up, CCP will probably lose a few hundred thousand dollars in revenue. ******* dumb decision by CCP.

Hate on me all you want.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#430 - 2014-11-25 18:38:15 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
So, because broadcasting is being banned as of 01 Jan 2015, does that mean on 01 Jan 2015, cloaks will be reverted again to not decloaking each other while cloaked since the main reason this was changed back was to nerf broadcasting bombers together?

No, because this change was never actually made.
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#431 - 2014-11-25 18:38:18 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
So, because broadcasting is being banned as of 01 Jan 2015, does that mean on 01 Jan 2015, cloaks will be reverted again to not decloaking each other while cloaked since the main reason this was changed back was to nerf broadcasting bombers together?

Doubtful. If anything, it'll cement the current mechanics. AFAICT, the original intention was to nerf ISBoxered bombers. When they started speaking up and telling CCP that it wouldn't, they backed off on it.

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Malcolm Lionel
Lionel War Industries
Gooseflock Featheration
#432 - 2014-11-25 18:38:31 UTC
gg mining. It was fun.
Jon Hellguard
X-COM
#433 - 2014-11-25 18:38:42 UTC
Prepare for epic inflation in the character transfer market starting january 1st, 2015. Big smile

For what it's worth - thank you CCP for taking action. Next up will be the Alliance Logo's, right?
Marsha Mallow
#434 - 2014-11-25 18:38:47 UTC
Apo Lamperouge wrote:
Don't let the space dock door hit you in the ass on the way out scrub.

Well said (*arse tho). Ass is a type of donkey.

Looking forward to logging in and hearing/reading the outraged squawks of the Isboxers. From memory most of them are annoying smugmonkey peasants anyway.

Good move CCP. You might want to write MULTIBOXING IS ALLOWED a bit bigger, in neon. Maybe stick a picture up too, just for emphasis. Or maybe not, the hysteria is quite amusing Lol

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#435 - 2014-11-25 18:39:20 UTC
Astroyka wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Astroyka wrote:
I think this is great news for EvE as a whole. I really don't think the unsubs will hit CCP that hard since most of the multiboxers were probably "paying" for their accounts with PLEX anyway.

Stop being dumb. It irritates me the amount of people here who still seem to have no clue what PLEX does or how it works.


Enlighten me, great one.


1x 12-month subscription = $9.99 per month to CCP.
12x PLEX for a yearly subscription = 12x $19.99 to CCP.
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#436 - 2014-11-25 18:39:47 UTC
Rear Admiral Charlie wrote:
To everybody complaining about isboxer I hope your ready to strap a miner to your ass because mineral prices are going to spike.


Good. I can sell off some of my stockpiles.

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CruxArc
Black Souls Industries
#437 - 2014-11-25 18:40:06 UTC
Great news Big smile
Neurotox
Malakim Zealots
Angel Cartel
#438 - 2014-11-25 18:40:35 UTC
Bye bye botters!
forever faithless
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#439 - 2014-11-25 18:41:05 UTC
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#440 - 2014-11-25 18:41:47 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Big +1 on the decision, but I'm worried it doesn't go far enough. People will just purchase more screens, and manually control multiple accounts. It'll be harder, surely, but it's still viable to manually control a 10 ship tornado gank fleet or procurer mining fleet. The only sure way to get rid of multiboxing, and entitle everyone equally to the actions of one character at a time, is to get rid of multiboxing entirely.


I knew the 'ban alts' people would start coming out of the cracks ;)