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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#221 - 2014-11-25 17:26:04 UTC
Aiyshimin wrote:
Aryth wrote:
Props. You are going to see a pretty nasty sub hit from this. However, this is necessary. I just hope you can recover those subs quickly.


It just shows that CCP values players over bot accounts.


Hate to break it to you but at least when it comes to mining, instead of players you can interact with controlling fleets, you'll see nothing but bots. You can look to resource gathering in every single mmo out there and the early years of this mmo for definitive proof.

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#222 - 2014-11-25 17:26:05 UTC
Michelle Monteleone wrote:
Guess my 12 accounts are done as of January 1, 2015. I had fun while it lasted. First Warcraft removed /follow from pvp because of all the cry babies now CCP has removed multiboxing all together. The Eve universe is going to change quite a bit when all the resources people were pumping out with multiple accounts goes away.

Merry Christmas CCP. Thanks for the lump of coal.

See you cry babies in the next mmo I multibox in.Big smile


Bye :)
350125GO
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#223 - 2014-11-25 17:26:56 UTC
With the multiboxers gone maybe the profit margins on manufacturing will rise again and make it a viable way to earn isk. It'll be great to watch the market. Wish Dr. E was still with CCP.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
#224 - 2014-11-25 17:27:01 UTC
marly cortez wrote:
The Sandbox ....What can be will be......except when we decide it's not to be. Compliments of CCP... Evil

Feed me your multiboxing tears <3

"Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."

"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka
Thedaius
Repercussus
#225 - 2014-11-25 17:27:14 UTC
Capri Sun KraftFoods wrote:
As someone who actually ISBox's bombers I'm a little upset.

The problem isn't ISBoxer. The problem is that bombs as they currently stand are completely broken Sure isboxer exacerbates the problem significantly, but you can still get 30 dudes into a fleet easily and go kill anything with 4 waves that isn't a T3 or a faction battleship. I'd be happy to see my bomber accounts become useless and de-sub them if it meant I didn't have to worry about getting hell bombed every other fleet.


That's bombs as intended. They are supposed to be able to do that if a successful bomber squadron can do it!

The key factor here is that one single person can no longer be the bombing squad for larger alliances like BL and GSF... Instead actual fleets will have to be formed with multiple people which increases the amount of mistakes made and reduces the overall success of Bombers. I do feel for you and several other's as you were independently valuable to your respective alliances.

But now this becomes an inclusive process that requires 10-30 dudes rather than an exclusive process that can be handled by 1-2 dudes.

Best of luck!
Mezzo Vaggio
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#226 - 2014-11-25 17:27:38 UTC
And now make Local in 0.0 Delayed so we can all Macrobots and EVE will be fine :)
Errious
#227 - 2014-11-25 17:27:40 UTC
Yes CCP Falcon !

Bann them, bann them all and bann them really hard !!!

Smile
Fluoroantimonicacid
Nullbear Tear Extractors
Hostile Intervention
#228 - 2014-11-25 17:27:44 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
By the way, out of curiosity, what's the difference between Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing?

(I ask as someone who'd be more likely to use ISBoxer to store frozen veggies than to slave multiple ships to one controller.)


Broadcast = send to all

Multicast = send to some
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#229 - 2014-11-25 17:27:57 UTC
Strata Maslav wrote:
I can see both sides of the coin on this decision. My issue with this decision by CCP is the tardiness of it. CCP have done a u-turn on this stance and therefore left many players who have made significant investment in a specific play style out in the cold with little to show for it.

This thread seems mostly centred on people gloating on a 'victory' over people pursuing this play style. I for one would like my money back on accounts I will no longer have use for.

If CCP are going make a u-turn on policy they should be willing to reimburse those affected.


You paid for access to EVE. CCP has not taken that access away.
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
#230 - 2014-11-25 17:28:25 UTC
Nituspar wrote:
As someone who has extensively used ISBoxer for the last year I'd like to thank CCP for having the courage to make this change, and the way it's being implemented.

The grace time will allow people who invested heavily into the program some reprieve to make their investments back, and the general playerbase will not have to deal with singular people wiping out their fleets or multi-billion ships anymore, which was always terrible gameplay.

I believe this is a very positive change to New Eden, and the short-term loss of subscriber revenue will be more than made up for in the long run by players enjoying the game more as a result of it

Thumbs up and keep up the good work CCP

Holy crap mate! A sensible response? Here, have all my likes!

"Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."

"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka
DragonHelm III
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#231 - 2014-11-25 17:28:57 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Michelle Monteleone wrote:
Guess my 12 accounts are done as of January 1, 2015. I had fun while it lasted. First Warcraft removed /follow from pvp because of all the cry babies now CCP has removed multiboxing all together. The Eve universe is going to change quite a bit when all the resources people were pumping out with multiple accounts goes away.

Merry Christmas CCP. Thanks for the lump of coal.

See you cry babies in the next mmo I multibox in.Big smile

Good.

As a vet of 7 years, get out. People like you, and other ~new~ scrubs who came in a few years ago after other vets left Eve made this game change, for the worse. With the changes being made now, the new rules, the new content, I am seeing old friends come back to Eve with a bit of hope that it won't be ****.

If getting 1 or 2 honest to goodness pirate vets back, the ones who made pirating classy, means losing 100 ISBoxing scublords, I say good riddance.

Now GET THE **** OUT

Could not have said it better myself
Myopic Thyne
Accounts Payable.
#232 - 2014-11-25 17:29:19 UTC
Strata Maslav wrote:
I can see both sides of the coin on this decision. My issue with this decision by CCP is the tardiness of it. CCP have done a u-turn on this stance and therefore left many players who have made significant investment in a specific play style out in the cold with little to show for it.

This thread seems mostly centred on people gloating on a 'victory' over people pursuing this play style. I for one would like my money back on accounts I will no longer have use for.

If CCP are going make a u-turn on policy they should be willing to reimburse those affected.



Still waiting on the reimbursement for the Drake and Hurricane pilots pre-teiricide.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#233 - 2014-11-25 17:29:37 UTC
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Prisoner11213
Nemesis Logistics
Goonswarm Federation
#234 - 2014-11-25 17:30:07 UTC
Ehm did someoen watch the plex prices ?? They are kind of droping fast .... ? Does that have anything to do whit this ?

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XXXMina
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#235 - 2014-11-25 17:30:23 UTC  |  Edited by: XXXMina
this is not right, you cant change the rules after 10 years, i got 5 accounts because it made sense with how the game is. now i cant use what little automation i take advantage of (just pressing the f keys ) . also jump fatigue and jump range change suxx: this is a space sim, way to clip our wings.


PS: im unsubbing all my accounts . you have till my 3 month sub runs out to fix this game.
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#236 - 2014-11-25 17:30:26 UTC
It is pretty funny that some folks think they have a case for getting reimbursed for following the Flavor Of The Month.

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Riku Klayton
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#237 - 2014-11-25 17:30:27 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
eiedu wrote:
RIP incursions
RIP Ratting
RIP bombing

Time to go back to wow, where it makes no sense to have multiple accounts

How are you even going to "catch" people who are input-multiplexing hardware-wise


Bye :)


you took my words out of my fingers...
Nevil Kincade
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#238 - 2014-11-25 17:30:32 UTC
This comes over a decade too late. However, thanks !

The EULA has always been clear about input automation of any kind being forbidden. It's just that the company now starts living up to it's own standards. And that's why I am concerned that CCP will go too soft on the people searching for loopholes already.

Anyway it's a small step in the right direction and if CPP goes on, disperses the blob and breaks up the RMT cartell i might just end up paying real money for this game again one day.
Aida Azizora
Kailaini Corporation
#239 - 2014-11-25 17:31:15 UTC
Quote:
I fail to see how multiboxing affects anyone around me.



Because you're a special little snowflake.


How about playing with the big kids who manage multiple accounts without special assistance?
Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
#240 - 2014-11-25 17:32:32 UTC
Radkiel wrote:
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


I just unsubbed all of my accounts, I'll play until the 1st then find another game.Cry

I fail to see how multiboxing affects anyone around me.


you are blind, we are sorry for you

there's so many thing to fix in eve.... and they fix forum ! GJ! but ok i like it !

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