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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#141 - 2014-11-25 17:01:49 UTC
I Alt-tabbed for years to run multiple accounts, so that's not a very big loss. The only question in my mind is whether the windows management aspect of ISBoxer is worth the money.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Laughable Xhosa Girl
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2014-11-25 17:02:45 UTC
Let me tell you how I, the downtrodden, every day Joe Eve Player With 25 Accounts is harmed by this.
Angela Daemonic
Outcasts of New Eden
#143 - 2014-11-25 17:02:52 UTC
There will be tears from a few, but joy from the many. Eve has needed this for a while and I am excited for the future.
Maxxor Brutor
Borderline Procurements
#144 - 2014-11-25 17:03:04 UTC
EvilweaselFinance wrote:


is there some dark gateway that requires precise coordinated action from several eve clients at once to unlock the portal to mac compatibility that must be opened every day


Yeah mac users need isboxer because they only have one mouse button :(
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#145 - 2014-11-25 17:03:11 UTC
thank you, CCP, finally.
Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#146 - 2014-11-25 17:03:21 UTC
Get rekt love squad h4ck3rs

Servant of the Secret League, Wielder of the Monocle Clubhouse Flame.
EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#147 - 2014-11-25 17:03:28 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:

• EVE Online client settings
• Window positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating system’s desktop environment)
• The login process [/i]


Emphasis added.

I'm confused by why this would be something you would ever have to expressly say you're not trying to control, unless you're simultaneously of the opinion that you could.

Is CCP actually claiming they have the right to police where I put my client window on my desktop?

i know why you'd say something like that: because dumb people will make the above dumb post if you don't, just with some words changed around

but for not-dumb people this is clearer
Zishy Linaris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2014-11-25 17:03:36 UTC
goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens
Act-Mack PVT
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#149 - 2014-11-25 17:03:46 UTC
So Fozzie, Is CCP adverse from making money? The way its going it looks like your trying to get rid of your current fan base and replace it with a new one. The only problem is that your current fanbase has multiple accounts and pays for them (if an account buys a plex CCP still technically has made 15-20 usd/euro) compared to newbros with one or two accounts. Its ok really, lowsec is dying because of phoebe, the only contested regions are placid and black rise (OE/TISHU, Snuff and Shadow cartel) Null sec is in flames as usual but who cares.
Prince Amygdala
Helping Our Men Orgasm
#150 - 2014-11-25 17:04:15 UTC
This is, without any doubt, the best thing I have ever seen CCP do to improve this game. Well done. Seriously. It was getting old seeing people pay to win by strapping smart bombers together and calling them independent accounts/characters.

Thank you.
Prince Amygdala
Helping Our Men Orgasm
#151 - 2014-11-25 17:05:34 UTC
Zishy Linaris wrote:
goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens


Good riddance.
Angry Arnst
W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M
#152 - 2014-11-25 17:05:59 UTC
All have do now is get rid of the awoxers who too lazy play game can only ruin it for others
Romana Erebus
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#153 - 2014-11-25 17:06:03 UTC
I think prescriptions for psyche meds just tripledLol


big miker wrote:
CCP is going places! Big smile

Finaly real skill and teamwork is needed again instead of boxing 10+ accounts.
Goodbye ISboxers, happy to see you leaving o/

> A very glad Miker
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#154 - 2014-11-25 17:06:25 UTC
Zishy Linaris wrote:
goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens

bye, dont let ya hit by the door on your way out.
Its gonna be a healthier game without people of your kind.
Soren Oboro
#155 - 2014-11-25 17:06:54 UTC
DEAD EVE !!!!!


All the players in eve have more then two, or 10 accounts do you really think what all of us will go out and buy an computer that had 10 or 20 ******* monitors REALLY!!! **** NO!!!! I will Not

unsubbed will play until the First!!!! GOOD BYE CCP AND ITS DUMM ASS POLITICS
Fluoroantimonicacid
Nullbear Tear Extractors
Hostile Intervention
#156 - 2014-11-25 17:06:54 UTC
Angela Daemonic wrote:
There will be tears from a few, but joy from the many. Eve has needed this for a while and I am excited for the future.


I plan to use whatever I can within the rules until it gets patched. After it is patched, I consider it a huge success and move onto the next strategy. EvE favors the players that adapt the fastest, and with the new faster release cycle it is more important than ever to be able to adapt and have 2-3 unrelated strategies in your arsenal or be able to find new ones quickly, to be ready for the day your current strategy (like ishtars or 250 man slow cat fleets) gets nerfed to a shadow of its former self.

-Replicator
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
#157 - 2014-11-25 17:07:09 UTC
Capri Sun KraftFoods wrote:
As someone who actually ISBox's bombers I'm a little upset.

The problem isn't ISBoxer. The problem is that bombs as they currently stand are completely broken Sure isboxer exacerbates the problem significantly, but you can still get 30 dudes into a fleet easily and go kill anything with 4 waves that isn't a T3 or a faction battleship. I'd be happy to see my bomber accounts become useless and de-sub them if it meant I didn't have to worry about getting hell bombed every other fleet.


That can be handled by balance. But the mere fact that you thought it was okay to single-handedly instapwn someone with a fleet of bombers ALONE was okay is quite frankly making me question your sanity. If 30 dudes (as in individuals) did it, I'm more fine with it than if some rotten ******* on the other side of a screen somewhere pressed one button and blew up my hopes and dreams.

"Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."

"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka
Kant Boards
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2014-11-25 17:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kant Boards
Kenneth Feld wrote:
No, but the fact I am running Mac OSX and it provides these functions, how would the distinguish between legal and illegal actions. I run 6 monitors and typically have 12-25 clients running, i can see every client on the screens simultaneously, so clicking from screen to screen and pressing keyboard buttons happens super fast and I can broadcast to multiple clients or a single client, but clicking from one to the other is instant.

The default would be ban first and sort it out later. I dont' have that kind of time, it took me 5 months to get a simple reimbursement thru the CCP bureaucracy, i can't imagine how many years a petition here would take.


Just thinking outloud, I could make a script to cycle the windows and do the commands a window at a time, them I am not broadcasting to multiple clients - this may work after all

Haha isnt this guy the one who went on and on about how people need to adapt and put in more work when the reprocessing and jump changes went in?? Sounds like you need to practice what you preach bud Smile
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2014-11-25 17:07:18 UTC
Props. You are going to see a pretty nasty sub hit from this. However, this is necessary. I just hope you can recover those subs quickly.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Prince Kobol
#160 - 2014-11-25 17:07:31 UTC
As much as I dislike ISBoxer all you are doing is treating the symptom and not fixing the actual problem.

How about you actually fix the problem and make PvE involving and interesting and not the mind numbing crap it is now.

(No I do not use ISboxer)

Also, I think you are going lose quite a few hundred subs.. just saying