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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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MASSADEATH
MASS A DEATH
Scumlords
#101 - 2014-11-25 16:51:09 UTC
FINALLY !!!!

wow that took a while....


KUDOS CCP FINALLY !!!!

Let the ban hammer swing free and swing HARD
Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#102 - 2014-11-25 16:51:53 UTC
WHOOO! it's about time ;)
Kant Boards
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2014-11-25 16:52:23 UTC
Kubiq wrote:
Kant Boards wrote:
CCP making bold and courageous and much needed changes. Whats next!? An end to AFK cloaking?!

Cloaking creates content (victims form defense fleets) isboxer does not

Well yeah but if they did something entirely reasonable like booting you from the server after 15-20 minutes of not interacting with the client like most games do it would end afk cloaking and Jita would never be capped out.

DARE TO BELIEVE
CC Avalos
METACORTEX LLC
#104 - 2014-11-25 16:52:50 UTC
I think this is a great move by CCP. Policing it might be a bit of a challenge, but good move. Im sure this thread is really going to slam open that can of worms!

Make sure you tune into Podside (Podcast) tonight to hear what other players think!

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Pandora Myuki
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#105 - 2014-11-25 16:53:12 UTC
Okay it's pretty simple, if you have 2 or more accounts logged INTO EVE and you PRESS ONE KEY OR MAKE ONE CLICK to make all the accounts do the same thing such as warping all your accounts to a station at the same time or launching 20 bombs at a target you will be banned.t IT IS A VERY SIMPLE RULE.
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#106 - 2014-11-25 16:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaaeliaa
Peritas Inmortalis wrote:
Thank you CCP Falcon with that update your going to help me save money, 6 less accounts to pay Cool


Bye! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Johann VandeBur wrote:
Thanks for the changes,
we all will have lots of fun to buy a ship for 300 mil t1 cruiser or some t3 for atleast 3b
Well so much accounts will be going to sleep and good job letting the game die CCP

have fun at pvp with 10 guys in frigets in 0sec


Bye! We won't miss you, either.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Radkiel
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#107 - 2014-11-25 16:53:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Radkiel
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


I just unsubbed all of my accounts, I'll play until the 1st then find another game.Cry

I fail to see how multiboxing affects anyone around me.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2014-11-25 16:53:39 UTC
Kenneth Feld wrote:
EvilweaselFinance wrote:
Kenneth Feld wrote:
Wait - hold on, just thought of something -


G15 and related keyboards are now banned??? They allow one keyboard click to do F1-F8 simultaneously

Although grouping guns in game does the same thing - except smartbombs




Quote:
Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing refer to the multiplication of inputs, actions and events to multiple instances of the game.




Yeah, so that means my Core OS - OSX and my keyboard are both not allowed

Kinda sucks, not going to buy windows to run the stinking game

I sure as hell won't buy a new keyboard


so stupid, if you want to ban isboxer fine, but leave the mac guys out of it


They are both allowed; your os and your keyboard. Using them to do the specified activities, is not.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2014-11-25 16:54:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Gilbaron
brb, buying ice and selling my plex

Edit:

I would suggest that you guys send out an email to anyone that would have been banned in the next two weeks
padraig animal
Machiavellian Empire
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#110 - 2014-11-25 16:54:07 UTC
Johann VandeBur wrote:
Thanks for the changes,
we all will have lots of fun to buy a ship for 300 mil t1 cruiser or some t3 for atleast 3b
Well so much accounts will be going to sleep and good job letting the game die CCP

have fun at pvp with 10 guys in frigets in 0sec



I know a option if you don't want to be one of those 10 .....unsub !!!! oh and contract your stuff to me TwistedTwistedArrow

......
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#111 - 2014-11-25 16:54:12 UTC
drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote:
So, this will be banable too?

Hardware Method



yup, read the first post again

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#112 - 2014-11-25 16:54:41 UTC
This has potential to become the second best expansion since w-space. The best part about it is that basically nothing can go wrong since not a single line of code will have to be changed!
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#113 - 2014-11-25 16:54:57 UTC
Radkiel wrote:
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


I just unsubbed all of my account, I'll play until the 1st then find another game.Cry

Your stuff, please can I have
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#114 - 2014-11-25 16:55:28 UTC
Radkiel wrote:
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


I just unsubbed all of my accounts, I'll play until the 1st then find another game.Cry

I fail to see how multiboxing affects anyone around me.



I'l be happy to take yoru stuff on the first, just contract to me thanks

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Denarius Demar
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2014-11-25 16:55:38 UTC
Perfect way, die ISBoxer!!!
and welcome back to "Handworking" Multiboxing cause this is the Championship-League


This is the right way!
Fluoroantimonicacid
Nullbear Tear Extractors
Hostile Intervention
#116 - 2014-11-25 16:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Fluoroantimonicacid
Galmas wrote:
This has potential to become the second best expansion since w-space. The best part about it is that basically nothing can go wrong since not a single line of code will have to be changed!



challenge accepted

-Replicator

note: it only takes a few bombers to cap out a w space cap escalation carrier, and I can easily do this if you triage in a site, also with 32 accts, lets say I put 8 in each WH... I can have 12 C5 holes permanently camped with 8 bombers each.
Thalen Draganos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#117 - 2014-11-25 16:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Thalen Draganos
Fluoroantimonicacid wrote:
Is broadcasting commands to dscan allowed? Is broadcasting control-c to copy something displayed in the client allowed, for example dscan or market windows?

Was I a large part of triggering this change, just like when I made the best of insurance fraud to the point it had to be patched?

-Replicator

When you were fighting against goons then it must have been ok but when you started to work with us, that must have been the catalyst for this. lol
Remember, Goons can NOT prosper from anything that some one else can't do. lmao
Just adapt people. Damn.


Page 8 SNIPE!
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#118 - 2014-11-25 16:56:10 UTC
I'd use ISBoxer to get all my alts to 'like' this thread, but I'd get banned....

YES/10

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Elena Morin'staal
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2014-11-25 16:56:41 UTC
Radkiel wrote:
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


I just unsubbed all of my accounts, I'll play until the 1st then find another game.Cry

I fail to see how multiboxing affects anyone around me.



You can still multi-box. It just means you have to alt-tab between client windows and make each command in each client, rather than pressing one key and having all 20 of your miners start mining.
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#120 - 2014-11-25 16:56:45 UTC
EvilweaselFinance wrote:
Kenneth Feld wrote:

Yeah, so that means my Core OS - OSX and my keyboard are both not allowed

Kinda sucks, not going to buy windows to run the stinking game

I sure as hell won't buy a new keyboard


so stupid, if you want to ban isboxer fine, but leave the mac guys out of it

im sorry what about your os and keyboard require you to multiplex input to multiple instances of eve

is there some dark gateway that requires precise coordinated action from several eve clients at once to unlock the portal to mac compatibility that must be opened every day



No, but the fact I am running Mac OSX and it provides these functions, how would the distinguish between legal and illegal actions. I run 6 monitors and typically have 12-25 clients running, i can see every client on the screens simultaneously, so clicking from screen to screen and pressing keyboard buttons happens super fast and I can broadcast to multiple clients or a single client, but clicking from one to the other is instant.

The default would be ban first and sort it out later. I dont' have that kind of time, it took me 5 months to get a simple reimbursement thru the CCP bureaucracy, i can't imagine how many years a petition here would take.


Just thinking outloud, I could make a script to cycle the windows and do the commands a window at a time, them I am not broadcasting to multiple clients - this may work after all