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These arse hats never heard of EvE Online?

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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#81 - 2011-12-15 20:34:30 UTC
Good thread! I predict it will be locked any minutes for lack of suck!

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Valei Khurelem
#82 - 2011-12-15 21:41:38 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
Good thread! I predict it will be locked any minutes for lack of suck!


It does seem an annoying trend on community sites nevermind gaming forums that any thread that gives some proper debate or has good ideas in it is either ignored or locked by moderators :(

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Ralnik
Mutineers
#83 - 2011-12-15 21:49:24 UTC
Beaches wrote:
MSNBC? Thank your lucky stars they haven't. Those liberal idiots would have this game shut down.



Myxx wrote:
Shhh, let them think they're important. Don't tell them about EVE. They'd try to have it shut down in a heartbeat.



Seriously are you both this freaking stupid? I mean really?
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2011-12-15 22:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Riedle
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Please get your politics out of EVE, especially when they're misguided and made up propaganda. When Americans started using the word 'liberal' as an insult I'll never know but to make it out as a bad thing when being liberal means you're pretty much open minded and tolerant is just stupid.


Please, please go and get a dictionary and stop watching fox news you silly twats.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Liberal

[b]1. relating to or having social and political views that favour progress and reform
2. relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom
3. giving and generous in temperament or behaviour
4. tolerant of other people
5. abundant; lavish: a liberal helping of cream
6. not strict; free: a liberal translation
7. of or relating to an education that aims to develop general cultural interests and intellectual ability


Seriously, you are not this dense are you?

A dictionary definition of liberalism? You do know the meaning of nuance do you not?
Today's liberals are not classical liberals in any way shape or form.
Today's liberals are statist, victimhood liberals not sharing much of anything in common with this classical definition of liberalism. They are in favour of pretty much any government regulation that restricts our freedoms not enhance them.

Of course if you were even vaguely aware of politics you would know this.
As well, if today's liberals adhered to this definition then the word liberal would not have the negative connotations that is assciated with it today.

Do some research - a dictionary definition doesn't cut it. (lol)
Valei Khurelem
#85 - 2011-12-15 22:25:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
I know what YOUR version of being liberal is and you're wrong, the only different version of liberals that exists has been planted in your heads at a young age and you're too witless to understand that. I have only seen one proper example of a word or ideology that has been hijacked by a different ideology or political party and that is the Republican party being taken over by homophobic, god fearing, muslim hating, warmongering and adultering neo-conservative morons like some of the people posting on these boards.

And didn't I tell you to keep your ******** politics out of EVE? Now look what you've made me do :( this thread is probably going to go on about 10 more pages now thanks to my rant.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#86 - 2011-12-15 22:44:10 UTC
American Liberals don't liberate and have not done so since 1776.

American conservatives have yet to actually conserve anything except government.

Tomorrow is Bill of Rights Day - and today they are going to sign into law (codify - they are are already doing it) the ability to use the Army in the US to detain people without charges, legal representation, or a trial, for an indefnate period. All it takes is a decree from the executive branch - no evidence required.

This whole argument may well be moot. We are arguing about the political system of a dead nation.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
First Lieutenant Dan
Doomheim
#87 - 2011-12-15 22:53:47 UTC  |  Edited by: First Lieutenant Dan
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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2011-12-15 22:57:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Riedle
Valei Khurelem wrote:
I know what YOUR version of being liberal is and you're wrong, the only different version of liberals that exists has been planted in your heads at a young age and you're too witless to understand that. I have only seen one proper example of a word or ideology that has been hijacked by a different ideology or political party and that is the Republican party being taken over by homophobic, god fearing, muslim hating, warmongering and adultering neo-conservative morons like some of the people posting on these boards.


If you were to do some research you would see that I am correct and maybe then you wouldn't be so angry and wouldn't need to insult your betters.

Do you think I have been brainwashed? Is that what you tell yourself when anyone disagrees with you? lol
That is a sign of egotism by the way.

While we are shattering stereotypes i am a Canadian. lol The brainwashing must go across the border I suppose. lols
Beaches
Doomheim
#89 - 2011-12-15 23:04:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Beaches
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
American Liberals don't liberate and have not done so since 1776.

American conservatives have yet to actually conserve anything except government.

Tomorrow is Bill of Rights Day - and today they are going to sign into law (codify - they are are already doing it) the ability to use the Army in the US to detain people without charges, legal representation, or a trial, for an indefnate period. All it takes is a decree from the executive branch - no evidence required.

This whole argument may well be moot. We are arguing about the political system of a dead nation.



I'm a long time believer in the fallacy of democracy. It can work in a homogeneous city-state like Athens with voter restrictions, but never in a nation of hundreds of millions of different people. Most aren't able to clump two ideas next to each other, let alone decide how a nation should be ruled. What happened in 2008 is a perfect example of how through their ignorance and inability they fail fundamentally in their task. The main thing most of them knew about Obama was that he was black, and everyone knows he couldn't have possibly won if he was the same person but white. (even over Hillary Clinton?) Just sad and pathetic so shallow, almost racist in its reverse racism, the American people disgust me, the mobs throughout the world are disgusting. F U fickle masses Evil
First Lieutenant Dan
Doomheim
#90 - 2011-12-15 23:16:14 UTC
Beaches wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
American Liberals don't liberate and have not done so since 1776.

American conservatives have yet to actually conserve anything except government.

Tomorrow is Bill of Rights Day - and today they are going to sign into law (codify - they are are already doing it) the ability to use the Army in the US to detain people without charges, legal representation, or a trial, for an indefnate period. All it takes is a decree from the executive branch - no evidence required.

This whole argument may well be moot. We are arguing about the political system of a dead nation.



I'm a long time believer in the fallacy of democracy. It can work in a homogeneous city-state like Athens with voter restrictions, but never in a nation of hundreds of millions of different people. Most aren't able to clump two ideas next to each other, let alone decide how a nation should be ruled. What happened in 2008 is a perfect example of how through their ignorance and inability they fail fundamentally in their task. The main thing most of them knew about Obama was that he was black, and everyone knows he couldn't have possibly won if he was the same person but white. (even over Hillary Clinton?) Just sad and pathetic so shallow, almost racist in its reverse racism, the American people disgust me, the mobs throughout the world are disgusting. F U fickle masses Evil


Well mam(lol yeah right), since I am highly qualified and as a matter of fact, I have a degree in the field, I recommend you take a dose of tissue 2 times ( twice ) daily until your box is empty or otherwise directed by your doctor or pediatrician.
Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2011-12-15 23:38:23 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
We'd just launch a massive campaign on their asses.
Bring down MSNBC! Twisted


Call in el anonymous?

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2011-12-16 07:14:54 UTC
We're still talking about politics? seriously?

fing, it's just some people talking about games they think are pretty, and you're upset eve isn't there.

well suck it up eve doesn't deserve it this year.

also it's all about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHfdSi-GDo

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#93 - 2011-12-16 10:21:39 UTC
Moved from General Discussion.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#94 - 2011-12-17 19:26:12 UTC
Came in looking for something eve related, left with a bitter tasty of human-lizardmen slavery system rant and politics ...

I bask in the Chaos of this thread!

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#95 - 2011-12-17 21:36:25 UTC
"Nominations for best art direction 2011".
Two problems with that.

First, art direction.
EVE strives for as much realism as possible, and while they could hope to win some design awards for whatever other categories they might want to like, "art direction" is not exactly one of them.
Then again, they included TES5:Skyrim in the lineup, so that might not be that much of a problem as it first looked like.

Second, for 2011.
Last I checked, EVE is not a 2011 game, nor did they radically shift the "art look" in 2011.
Not enough to be a contender even technically anyway.

So, bottom line, you're complaining EVE was not nominated in a category of a certain award they don't belong into in the first place ?

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#96 - 2011-12-18 05:44:48 UTC
Beaches wrote:
MSNBC? Thank your lucky stars they haven't. Those conservative idiots would have this game shut down.


Fixed.

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#97 - 2011-12-18 05:45:46 UTC
Buzzmong wrote:
Beaches wrote:
MSNBC? Thank your lucky stars they haven't. Those liberal idiots would have this game shut down.


Do you know how I know you're an American?
For some reason you chaps have a very weird idea about liberal people, probably the fault of your mass media or schools, but you seem to think they're out to get you.

In short, anyone who is actually properly liberal wouldn't bat an eyelid about Eve, infact they'd probably encourage it.


^^ And, this ^^

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#98 - 2011-12-18 05:51:37 UTC
Beaches wrote:


The liberals I'm talking about wouldn't like the 'harsh world' or 'player-driven economy' parts or the minmatar for that matter, never ending list.


Those aren't liberals.

Hate to break that to you, but what your owners want you to think = liberal for you to concentrate on hating (so you keep letting them **** you in the arse left, right, and centre), actually are about as far from true liberals as it can get.

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#99 - 2011-12-18 06:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Beaches wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
...


Also, conservatives can be libertarians or a mix. See: Ron Paul

Liberals hate 'liberty' as it were and believe that liberty is a threat to government which is there to make sure people eat, speak and behave properly see: "1984" George Orwell.


Oh, for ****'s sake...Roll

Are you just trolling, or are you really that clueless?

By your own definition, the last 40-odd years of American governments have been as "liberal" as they come, then. [/cynicism]

"Liberal: (n.) One who is open-minded, or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established ways"
(Mirriam-Webster's online)

In other words, the exact opposite of what you were/are indoctrinated into believing liberals are, by implied definition.

Maybe you should stop spewing other people's overused, generic talking-points and start thinking for yourself for once?

Or even better, just leave your paint-by-numbers, pants-on-head ******** American fake-populist garbage for another forum, that would be a nice bonus...RollUgh

Ni.
Selinate
#100 - 2011-12-18 06:48:06 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:


2 Conservatives - People who generally dont like idea of suffering at the expense of less deserving people. Would rather make everyone work for what they earn. They also know that mankind will never learn its 'lesson' and always prepare for the time it fails its lesson in a very horrible manner, also recently labeled as domestic terrorist.
Popular Examples: Glen Beck, Donald Trump.



I just caught this little gem in this thread. Nothing you say should every be considered reasonable from this point forward. You actually just tried to cast a somewhat positive light on Glen Beck.

I always find it funny when Obama is being compared to H!tler, when Glenn Beck actually DOES have a lot of similarities to H!tler, starting with the fact that he is blatantly anti-Semitic.....