Wormholes

I'm mostly doing data/relic sites in C3 and C4 and I can tell you that the sleeper data site are totally worthless. Just don't waste your time hacking those.

On the other side, sleeper relic sites are really profitable, well most of the time.

If you did a sleeper relic site, you must have been really unlucky cause they are much more profitable than the data one.

The nullsec style relic and data sites found n C1, C2, and C3 wormholes are quite lucrative. You only need an Imicus or Heron, no need to fit tank at all, just a couple of nanos, some warp core stabs, and get into it. I am running about 5-10 a day, clearing a good 45-100M a day from them. Just have to stay on d-scan every now and then to watch for combat probes, but even if something tries to decloak and point you, a 5s decloak delay is plenty fine to get out of dodge.

You can even pick up large faction tower BPC's and faction BS BPCs in them.

You are in a C1 hole. Try going up a class or two. Or four, if you want real ISK from Relics.

I think more and more people have figured out it was good to do the nullsec sites in WH, because I now tend to run into more and more competitors. But if anyone wanted to catch you, they wouldnt use combat probes, its as good just to scan the sites and then camp them or just stay somewhere where they can dscan them and then jump on you.

And these days lot of people are camping the wormhole entries, sometimes with too obvious a bait (come on, a capsule?)

But yes, its quite fun, those sites. When one has luck and finds WH that has long been neglected then its a
hackfest.


Have you tried to run sleeper data/relic sites with Heron? :) Its fun, but not much ISK since you won't be killing anything (possibly yourself).

Null-sec sites have brought a breath of fresh air to low-class wormholes. Generally you'll find relic sites are much more lucrative than data sites, as is the case in null, CCP took some steps to fix this but as yet I haven't seen a difference.

Sleeper relic/data sites are god-awful. At least in a C2 which I'm familiar with. The sleeper loot/salvage is on par with other sites so that's ok, but the cans themselves are like high-sec quality loot.

Yeah, and it's not like you can just come back to them later, since they tend to despawn. At least if the cans sat around solo until downtime we could just let some random member hack them solo. Then it would be decent isk/hr and all that for a solo newb. Instead we are forced to make everyone wait.

Is this a change that could be made?

Exactly. They have just become combat sites with some space litter hanging around. Not the vision I think CCP had in mind with Odyssey and the exploration theme.

Yes. Null relic sites will net you more than Sleeper C1 data sites.

The OP complaining about low relic prices for the artifacts retrieved from higher class space (intact/malfunctioning) are seeing the results of sneaky farming of specific sites in high class holes followed by noobishly dumping to buy orders. The market PvPing ISK barons have Whers over a barrel on this stuff it seems. For now at least.