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Ormand Audel
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-11-25 11:11:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ormand Audel
So is the law and the entirety of government countries a joke (don't answer that)? They don't protect unless they're already there, they only bring down the hammer of "justice", and only then when they have evidence. And they're bribeable. I'd say CONCORD is a helluva lot better than the current one. Oh sure, a few innocents killed here and there when they accidentally break the law, but they always manage to serve justice to people in under a minute in their territory, they're also not bribeable.
Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-11-25 11:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Gaming God welcome back and thank you for the stealth alert to your killboard. Always a lovely browse!
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#23 - 2014-11-25 14:59:31 UTC
CONCORD does protect you. It destroys the ship of the assailant, lowers his security status, gives him a 15 minute timeout, and generates a kill right for you. It does not recover the loot, like normal law enforcement would, because that would make profitable ganking impossible. Now some of us do think there should be more consequences for ganking, especially by repeat criminals. I have suggested that -10 gankers get a 6 hour GCC timer, with sliding scale downwards to 15 minutes at -2.

In general, to use officer mods properly (and I don't have any), you buy them on an alt with a generic name, trade them to another generic alt, and the blockade runner them out of Jita to your mission hub. Buying them with your main, is, well, asking for it.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#24 - 2014-11-25 15:07:47 UTC
look. The truth is that the people who are responding to you (OP) in this thread who happen to be pirates, gankers, pvper's and whatnot... any advice they give you is generally honest (for the most part). The scary thing is the pve'ers are the ones who will give you the bad advice.
It doesn't matter if you buy the shinies with your alt and move them out sneaky-like. Once your ship undocks and that frigate with the passive targetter detects that you are driving a pimp-fit sports car, you have become a target to be hunted. Just keep your fits sane, keep your wits about you, and fly safely and you'll likely have no problems running missions in your marauder.
Just remember that YOU are the primary force responsible for your own protection and you'll do fine.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#25 - 2014-11-25 15:32:20 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
look. The truth is that the people who are responding to you (OP) in this thread who happen to be pirates, gankers, pvper's and whatnot... any advice they give you is generally honest (for the most part). The scary thing is the pve'ers are the ones who will give you the bad advice.
It doesn't matter if you buy the shinies with your alt and move them out sneaky-like. Once your ship undocks and that frigate with the passive targetter detects that you are driving a pimp-fit sports car, you have become a target to be hunted. Just keep your fits sane, keep your wits about you, and fly safely and you'll likely have no problems running missions in your marauder.
Just remember that YOU are the primary force responsible for your own protection and you'll do fine.


BR or ceptor out of JITA + cloak, etc....and you will never get scanned.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#26 - 2014-11-25 15:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Undock from mission agent station, you get scanned. Learn to EvE dolt.
Goddammit Remiel, your challenges are too hard. I almost made it two weeks :P

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#27 - 2014-11-25 15:43:03 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Undock from mission agent station, you get scanned. Learn to EvE dolt.


Depends where you hub. The SoE ones are camped by scanners sure....but pick a nice quiet hub that's not usually favored...and no one will bother you.

Learn to EvE dolt.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#28 - 2014-11-25 15:51:20 UTC
Look, the ultimate bottom line is to assume that you are not safe. Period. The end. That's frakking it. It does not matter where, you simply assume that once you undock your marauder/battleship for glorious combat vs the mighty red plus empire, that someone somewhere will be sitting there idly scanning your blingfit derpmobile and silently fapping to the results.
Do not try to freaking split hairs with me, because I don't really give 1/5th of a damn when it comes to statistical veracity. It happens, maybe not right freakin now, but perhaps later... or maybe f'n never. But the shizzle be on the damned menu, so odds are in favor of someone ordering a well done entree of you and a side of any of your little friends who happen to be fool enough to interfere.
Just be safe. That's it. If that's not enough, well you can go sod off and enjoy your massive lossmail and podloss. Just don't, please for the love of all that's unholy, DO NOT come back here and ***** about it happening to you, because you bought and paid for the suffering you are enduring on the credit of your own damned foolishness.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-11-25 17:14:50 UTC
If the Mittani article is accurate, you gotta give props to the OP for laughing off the loss and taking a chance on something new, even if that chance didn't end on great terms.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#30 - 2014-11-25 18:16:41 UTC
You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Paranoid Loyd
#31 - 2014-11-25 18:26:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Agondray wrote:
You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

I post all the time and have never been ganked.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-26 01:19:13 UTC
Seriously guys. If all you looked at was that Golem kill, you are missing out

https://zkillboard.com/character/92386597/

Perfect example of having money but no sense? Seriously you are gonna fill your head with that much isk and not figure out how to get your pod out in HS?
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#33 - 2014-11-26 02:42:41 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Agondray wrote:
You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

I post all the time and have never been ganked.



That may be true, but you are paranoid, loyd.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#34 - 2014-11-26 03:13:17 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Agondray wrote:
You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

I post all the time and have never been ganked.



That may be true, but you are paranoid, loyd.


OP....after looking at your killboard...the problem ain't the gankers...the problem is you.

Learn to fit your ******* ships. I mean, do you have any understanding of the concept of buffer tanking? Get your EHP up to a nice high level, and make the gankers bring a whole lot of people or some real expensive ships to kill you.

FFS - ALWAYS have a damage control fitted. One pith C invul ain't enough, stick at least 2 of em on. And maybe stick the adaptive armor membrane in a lowslot. Come on man....your ships are a painful fail-fit...you are BEGGING TO GET GANKED. Learn to fit at least with a modicum of tank, even if it means L4s will take you another 2 minutes.
Kellie Dusette
Division 13
#35 - 2014-11-26 03:22:41 UTC
You should calm self before anurism it come, Mister Belvar.

Many much Achuran meditation technique help for sort through emotion if turbulent. Is very easy, can teach if like.

Many nasty word make for bitter scent from soul. Just breath, Mister Belvar. Breeeeaaath.


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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-11-26 03:41:15 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Agondray wrote:
You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

I post all the time and have never been ganked.



That may be true, but you are paranoid, loyd.


OP....after looking at your killboard...the problem ain't the gankers...the problem is you.

Learn to fit your ******* ships. I mean, do you have any understanding of the concept of buffer tanking? Get your EHP up to a nice high level, and make the gankers bring a whole lot of people or some real expensive ships to kill you.

FFS - ALWAYS have a damage control fitted. One pith C invul ain't enough, stick at least 2 of em on. And maybe stick the adaptive armor membrane in a lowslot. Come on man....your ships are a painful fail-fit...you are BEGGING TO GET GANKED. Learn to fit at least with a modicum of tank, even if it means L4s will take you another 2 minutes.



.............You're, like, half right? To be optimistic....
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#37 - 2014-11-26 04:05:15 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Agondray wrote:
You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

I post all the time and have never been ganked.



That may be true, but you are paranoid, loyd.


OP....after looking at your killboard...the problem ain't the gankers...the problem is you.

Learn to fit your ******* ships. I mean, do you have any understanding of the concept of buffer tanking? Get your EHP up to a nice high level, and make the gankers bring a whole lot of people or some real expensive ships to kill you.

FFS - ALWAYS have a damage control fitted. One pith C invul ain't enough, stick at least 2 of em on. And maybe stick the adaptive armor membrane in a lowslot. Come on man....your ships are a painful fail-fit...you are BEGGING TO GET GANKED. Learn to fit at least with a modicum of tank, even if it means L4s will take you another 2 minutes.



.............You're, like, half right? To be optimistic....


100% right, as per usual.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-11-26 04:08:44 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
100% right, as per usual.


The answer to "begging to be ganked" is to fit more overly expensive mods? Next you'll be telling newish players that they should spend real money in order to buy a faction battleship to run incursions with regardless of their skills.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#39 - 2014-11-26 04:27:04 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
100% right, as per usual.


The answer to "begging to be ganked" is to fit more overly expensive mods? Next you'll be telling newish players that they should spend real money in order to buy a faction battleship to run incursions with regardless of their skills.


If you are going to fly a blinged battleship to run L4s, some of that bling needs to be on tank. With some Pith Cs and a good shield buffer, you make it painful and expensive to gank you, and send the gankers scurrying elsewhere.

Highsec isn't nullsec....you just need to survive long enough for your CONCORD allies to show up.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-11-26 17:07:32 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
100% right, as per usual.


The answer to "begging to be ganked" is to fit more overly expensive mods? Next you'll be telling newish players that they should spend real money in order to buy a faction battleship to run incursions with regardless of their skills.


If you are going to fly a blinged battleship to run L4s, some of that bling needs to be on tank. With some Pith Cs and a good shield buffer, you make it painful and expensive to gank you, and send the gankers scurrying elsewhere.

Highsec isn't nullsec....you just need to survive long enough for your CONCORD allies to show up.


Some of the smarter gankers will scan your ship prior to the gank, and account for the EHP. And fitting more expensive modules on the ship will just make it more likely that you will get ganked.