Warfare & Tactics

The ironic part is that as much as you all were despondent when it was in our favor, just about the time ya'll gave up it swung back. We had to plex for another 5-6 hours unopposed before we could flip the system.

If you guys had kept hammering away it would have taken even longer.

Aye - after two days of one way DUST movement cancelling out all the work we were doing to hold the system steady we were just convinced it was a mechanic that you guys had a lock down on and that we didn't understand. Nudging over 92% late on Sunday when we knew that your AU tz would pull another 10% after we logged made it look like it was time to call it off. We only worked out later that the DUST swing coming at exactly the same time as your push was entirely coincidental but at the time it had a big effect on morale to see that even when we were winning we were still losing control by the hour. Live and learn

Edit - To add, when you say 'swung back' it only swung back to less in your favour from a +22% high (if memory serves). I can only dream of a system control battle where the DUST figure is actually positive for us! Last time I did the calculations the average across the warzone gives your systems something like an 8% 'ehp' advantage over ours from the effect of DUST, which is certainly not decisive but is also far from trivial. There are currently 53 systems in the warzone where DUST provides an advantage to Gallente system control vs. 2 systems where there is an advantage for the Caldari side. tl;dr The DUST/FW link needs a stake through its heart.

::rude hand gesture:: enjoy the abandoned bouncers, vultures!

From what i heard 19 carriers(practically one for ever battleship fielded) and roughly even numbers wasnt a surefire way to stop snuff getting dunked 3 weeks on the trot by galmil they had to call in calmil too

SNUFF 'held our hands' but needed us to help them fight you? It's almost as if two groups who would each be outnumbered and outgunned by themselves went on a successful and well thought out joint op.

Same informational content but with the unnecessary and slightly incoherent sneering removed. I know it's second nature to you and you probably can't see when you're doing it after all this time but, no, not exactly the same.

I qualified 'incoherent' with 'slightly' as your jabs don't quite add up. When you say that one group is 'hand holding' another it implies a one-way relationship of dependency, specifically evoking the dependency of a child on an adult. Yet at the same time you say that the group that was apparently doing the hand holding actually depended on the other group for their victory, which suggests a rather different relationship. Hence you were 'slightly incoherent' as the imagery of the two attempted insults didn't quite come together properly.

I think before they make said fleet, they need to give this a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSS5dEeMX64

The only smart ones to make out alive from the Galfed side was Bohica. As crap as the former Nulli group is, they are smart to use the rest of the Gallente plebs as a meatshield similar to the old SOTF days. It's a shame that some of the high SP groups like SPDR, JUSTC, and GMVA can't field something other than a full cheap ewar doctrine.

If only GalMil wouldn't be too prideful to admit they have tons of numbers and are simply a bandwagon that everyone hops on for easy mode.
So much for "we were the underdogs and then magic happened and we stopped being the underdogs" and "we don't like it easy, its just that everyone joins us and makes it easy; can't blame us for that!" when you can bring enough people to cover a significant pirate corp and your FW counterpart entirely.