Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I don't see myself using this ship in Null Sec because a carrier is still way better. The JF is way safer when moving stuff from highsec to Null Sec (the JF never has to make that gate jump from high to low or null, unlike this ship). I would not use it in highsec because it's more effort and risk than moving my ships via Redfrog courier contract or simply flying them. Unless it gains some more resistance to suicide attacks, I don't see it seeing much use anywhere. A t2 tanked version - before implants - should be able to haul at least 2 billion worth of stuff in relative safety. Otherwise it is essentially useless.

Can we paint it red?

When you want to move your incursion fleet across the galaxy to the next high sec incursion. Personally, when I ran Incursions, I had jump clones spread all over space with a small cache of ships with each clone. That meant I never had to actually fly that far to keep getting content.

I never said anything about main usage being null - very much the opposite actually. Hence the quote from the OP

If something is introduced with an intended purpose but is welcomed more by a complete different group than the intended audience it fails its design purpose. Not my opinion but common understanding in design.

No one keeps you from hopping into whatever you like to - but that should account for both groups. Null sec has already carriers to perform that kind of job - high sec has nothing comparable as capitals are not allowed for a good reason in it. Every time new ships and designs are introduced its mostly null sec that claims ownership of adjustments and design changes constantly awarding them more than others. If a ship intended for high sec is not following design wishes of that player group it needs to be redesigned or better not introduced at all.

Edit: A simple change would be a no-bonus in jump fatigue to make it less interesting for null right away. And the statement '...wanting a ship like that most...' is utterly entertaining. Faction warfare, incursions, industry operations - the list of people in high sec areas wishing for a ship like this will most definitely exceed your group - just because they are less organized than null sec alliances and don't voice as concentrated as those does not mean they are less interested or less in need.

You forgot to add 'so far' - nothing wrong in not applying it to this one

Simply to prevent this '...It may find applications in other parts of space (especially because of the reduced jump fatigue), but we aren't really worried about hitting anything outside of the high-sec application.' Your and other peoples statement should worry CCP by now that its application will be to circumvent the jump changes.

Edit: The usage of 'we' as a player not being part of CCP actually made me think a bit...

We would still use it without the bonus so removing it does nothing.

Because as we showed earlier if you have a large number of ships using the bowhead is faster. You also cannot scan the fits of the ships inside the hold so nobody but you will know how they are fitted.

I've been wondering about this. It still seems like, if you want to move ships around fast, you would dissassemble them, and then put both them and their modules into a normal freighter.

The only real advantages of a big ship bay would seem to be if they have rigs. That and saving time if you've already got them fit how you want (so you don't have to keep doing it again and again.)

The inability to see the modules on a scan might be a side advantage too, I guess. But if they're expensive ships, then probably a high sec pirate will assume the rigs are expensive too.

At least the ship adds some variety. I thought the Prospect was going to be a big waste of space, but then I trained an alt on it and tried it out and it's actually a pretty useful ship for the role I give it (not it's intended role).